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  1. DebbyTutton

    Feather Plucking

    Oh my goodness, that sounds dreadful and how stressful for both you and your girls. Does she eat the feathers or simply pluck ? Or both perhaps ? i had three Sussex in my cube initially (about 10 years ago) and one would pluck from time to time. I found leaving the door open helped so they weren’t bored when awake, fortunately we live in a warm climate so if it happened at winter it wasn’t too hard for them. This seemed to solve the problem at the time. what am I saying ? you have probably tried everything. Like me reading everything google has to offer 🤷🏼‍♀️ I have been throwing interesting food stuff in the run of my newbies. Each day something different. Giving the same to my grown up girls just outside so the little ones know what to do with it. (Yogurt was hilarious and messy). They are still a little scared of the sunflower head from a neighbouring field so I think I will take that out today and replace with a friends squishy tomatoes. It seems to have stopped, at least I didn’t see it happening yesterday🤞 Have treated them with xeno 450 just in case. Still not too late for you to find a solution, perhaps my two pennyworth will help ?
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    Feather Plucking

    I am not a fan of the spray having tried it in the past without success. Also on this occasion it doesn’t seem to be just the bum that is pecked. In fact I haven’t seen that area pecked at all. It seems to be the sides mostly and doesn’t seem vicious or agressive but more like “hey, I need a snack”. Since my initial posting I have found, what look like, mites on one of them so I am starting a treatment of Xeno 450 tonight. I think the little Braekel may be too small so may give her a couple of baths and dust in de instead and keep a close eye on her. I wonder if they saw a midge or something similar and was aiming for that. Okay, perhaps I am being naive but I am hoping that’s it. I really hate the clip things but will bare them in mind if it continues or escalates. Thank goodness they haven’t mixed with my existing girls yet.
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    Feather Plucking

    Hi Guys, i have just adopted four hens, they look in good health, between three and five months, different breeds and unfortunately differing sizes. In the last two days I have noticed that they are keen pluckers. Sometimes eating the feathers sometimes just plucking for the hell of it. Not out of themselves just others. That I have seem anyway. There is plenty to do in their crèche enclosure. I have put watermelon halves, a small climbing frame, herbal plants and a large area suitable for dust bathing (with loads of de) which they use. I am concerned that this could escalate. They are getting a good quality feed from me although I have no idea what they got from the breeder. I have had them for four days. No sign of fleas, mites, ticks, lice or anything although I have wormed them and cover their poops with de or removed them (depending on condition) each morning. Does anyone have any suggestions on how I can stop this habit ? Many thanks for reading and any advice greatfully received.
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    Tumeric and a Broody Hen

    Hi Lewis, I don’t give her much, only one slice, probably about 2g. I agree about the sugar I do try to keep it down although we have lots of wild plum trees around us and of course they do fall. Also because of the heat I give them cold watermelon, but only when it’s over 35c which has been often recently. I think it’s essential as it provides extra water. Normally I don’t give them much in the way of extras as they spend most of their day in our small oak wood and get enough food from there. Annie is a special case,
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    Tumeric and a Broody Hen

    Mmm, hadn’t thought of It that way, do you have experience in these matters ? I would welcome alternative ideas ? i cant help but feel that I have to do something and this is the closest to something I can find using the data I have found online. If it doesn’t work at least I will have tried. even if it gives her another week off-brood then it will be worth it as far as I am concerned. I also accept that to get a true analysis it will take a couple of years because of weather fluctuations. i have to try.
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    Tumeric and a Broody Hen

    😂 I think you could be right, but it is true that certain breeds are more susceptible than others and they tend to be the fluffier ones. Annie is an Araucana so very fluffy but not as much as a silkie. Perhaps, in breeding the hens to be more attractive to us humans the fluffier gene has Become linked to the drd1 gene ? An idea ? Thank goodness my other girls just look at her with disdain when she’s broody and run away from the sharp end. They don’t get broody but none of my others are mega fluffy.
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    Tumeric and a Broody Hen

    I have just found an article which identifies the drd1 gene as being directly relative to egg production and broodyness, the drd1 is the dopamine receptor. Although I am unable to link this research to my findings on tumeric it does mention numerous other high protein foods which are high in tyrosine and phenylalanine. These are the two amino acids which enhance the properties of drd1. in a nutshell, this means (my understanding) that products such as tuna, sardines, salmon, bananas, lentils, peanut butter, tofu and chickpeas as well as yogurt and cheese “should” help in reducing the broodyness even slightly by increasing her dopamine. My process plan is ... 20 July to 20 August I will add 1 level teaspoon of tumeric per kg of feed and provide Annie with a slice of banana every morning (which I know she will love and provides generous amounts of the required amino acids). I will keep a close eye on her to compare with my notes of the past two months. Keep your fingers crossed for us you guys 🤞
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    Tumeric and a Broody Hen

    Sigh 😔 sounds like you are right if it heats them up it ain’t gonna help. But I am keen to try and improve things for her so after my current project (titled Who’s Been Eating The Chook Feed?) I will give it a go. Still think the logic sounds firm. 🙄 (Actually my current project should be titled Who’s Been Eating The Chook Feed Molly as I am convinced the cat is munching it but need to prove it to hubby so have a movement detector camera in position) She is beautiful Chookchat. A real Stunner.
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    Tumeric and a Broody Hen

    Yep, that sounds just like my slammer. Unfortunately she has decided now that she won’t eat or drinkwhilst in there. I also have a fan on one side of the cage as we have extreme temperatures this summer. Oh bless, she sounds just like Annie. I am sure she is related to the Alien in the famous films as she can send out her neck feathers to real effect. Unfortunately I just laugh which doesn’t seem to help.
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    Tumeric and a Broody Hen

    oh nearly forgot. Annie my girl in question has been in the slammer as we call it but after a week I decided it could not continue. I was concerned about her feeding which seemed rare. She was becoming withdrawn and never moved. Now I take her out of the nesting box every time I find she’s missing. She mixes although is clearly at the bottom of the pecking order but at least I can see her eating and moving about. The moving alone should help her but I really feel that I need to find work on a preventative measure rather than constantly trying to cure her each time it happens. Even if the preventative measure gives her another week of non broodyness each time then it will be worth it. At the moment her life is miserable because of the instinct which keeps coming and biting her on the ass.
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    Tumeric and a Broody Hen

    Hi Lewis, Thanks for taking the time to look into this. I too found lots of India based research but which piece are you specifically interested in ? For me the document which kicked it all off was “Effect of prolactin on estradiol and progesterone secretion by isolated chicken ovarian follicles” On academia.edu I found it fascinating and hope that it was genuine as it got my thought processes galloping. From there I worked backwards to broad beans and then to tumeric.
  12. I have a terribly broody hen who spends two weeks broody then two weeks laying then two weeks broody etc and has done since May. Poor girl doesn’t know whether she is coming or going and it is so hard to make sure she is eating properly. Rather than go down the road of “how to get her out of being broody” I have been researching why it happens and if there is a way of reducing the problem. heres my findings after a lot of sieving thought the internet trash. Broodyness is caused by heat and too much Estradiol. The weather is hard to control and I already have misters in the garden with lots of cold water. So this leads me to the chemical option. Prolactin reduces estradiol. Dopamine increases Prolactin and (this is the crucial bit) amongst other things Tumeric produces dopamine. so... if I give Tumeric at a doe of 1 level teaspoon per kg of feed this “should” decrease the amount she is broody. in reverse - Tumeric produces Dopamine increases Prolactin reduces Estadiol of which too much causes broody in theory ! does anyone have any further information regarding this line of thought ? Or experience of broodyness vs tumeric ? Broad beans are supposed to be excellent for producing dopamine but there are too many side effects/risks involved so I am opting for tumeric. I will keep this post up to date although be prepared for a long wait to gather my findings.
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    The mystery of the missing eggs

    I have hens that do that too, I think it’s just a way of getting away from the little ones who run about like wee nutters. 😁
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    The mystery of the missing eggs

    Hi everyone following this, Susan has started laying again ... after a scary long break she has gradually come back. No idea why. to start off the eggs were a bit whiter than normal for a Maran and not smooth, kinda gritty in texture. Not a constant colour, kind of tie died for those of you old enough to remember that, but now after a week or so she is back to her normal self. Very weird but I am SO relieved she is okay 😃😃 happy faces all round.
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    The mystery of the missing eggs

    Great News ! Susan is laying again. The first egg was very pale for a Maran but now she is in full throw and back to her normal self. Still no idea why she stopped, but it lasted for two months and then she starts again as if northing had happened, she has no idea how worried I was, a happy ending 🥳

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