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  1. You try rubbing in something oily first to loosen it like coconut oil, then try scrubbing them. Hair shampoo might be better than washing up liquid which might be a bit drying - unless it is something like Ecover. A soft bristle nail brush should be ok as long as you are not to hard with the scrubbing
  2. A lot of breeds which were originally bred for their egg production qualities have been taken over by the breeders who show their birds and the markings and features of the bird take on more importance than their performance in quantity or quality of eggs. I think it would depend on what the particular stain was being bred for, and if your breeder says they lay small eggs then she will. But don't forget that the eggs are always smaller when they first start to lay. My Marans normally lay around 55 grm at first but are soon up to 65+ and the following year the are 70-80 grms.
  3. I think the females only have one ovary and if that is damaged in some way then they don't produce enough hormones to stay in lay and will begin to crow and exhibit male characteristics, but will never function fully as a male. The old saying was "A whistling woman and a crowing hen is neither good for God nor men"
  4. Rats get very put off and perturbed when things are moved around - though unfortunately they will not usually decamp - so if you are intending to use poison it might be better to put it down before you move everything It is unlikely they will take any bait at first, until they are used to the bait boxes, then they will gingerly investigate them, later try a tiny bit of bait, then next day a bit more, and so on. It is natural selection in that if the bait makes them feel ill they will never eat it again. Also once they begin to take the bait you must keep it topped up till they don't take any more. Then when you are sure they are all gone maybe move everything and have a good sort out. Just thinking about how I would tackle it. Also make sure that anything edible is removed once you start baiting as they will be more likely to start taking the bait - as the saying goes.
  5. If your incubator is fixed and you want to have another try at hatching some eggs I could do with some test hatchings on mine and would send you some free to try. Just pm me as they are laying nicely at present. They are bred to lay coloured eggs Basket of eggs from my Miss Sugar'n'Spice pullets
  6. As far as I understand it the situation with Mareks and vaccination is as follows Vaccination does not prevent Mareks, but it does, in most, though not all of the cases, alleviate some or all of the symptoms ]vaccination does not prevent infection with the virus, and the Marek's Disease virus has evolved increased virulence and resistance to this vaccine It also reduces the amount of infected dander shed by the birds, so vaccination is imperitive in commercial situations where buildings contain thousands of birds in close proximity which would mean huge finacial losses for the business concerned Birds still have the potential to succumb when under stress, which could be when moved to new surroundings and introduced to established birds. Similarly the resident birds may be stressed by the change in pecking order when new fowl arrives. POL is a particularly stressful time in any case so this is a natural time when Mareks will manifest. Any other stressors, such as change of routine ie attendents and type of feed, adverse weather conditions, and illnesses of any sort may also have an effect. Also potenial infections by lice and mites, and disturbance by rats or other vermin should be looked to as all these will weaken the birds. It is a horrible disease, though one that (at least in my liftetime) has always been around. Personally it is my experience that strong healthy birds bred for a degree of natural immunity survive and perform without problems even when not vaccinated. But it will be interesting to hear what your vet says
  7. A year or two ago I went up to a local farm with tons of feed everywhere, and asked them what they did for rat control and they used a "rat man" He has been visiting me since (pretty expensive!) but I have learnt a lot. What he does Try to give them as little access to feed as possible (I use the spring pheasant feeders on legs wherever possible) Put the bait boxes down at the points where they are gaining access, but try to keep the boxes outside to k"Ooops, word censored!"ble them before they have got in (obviously this is after you have got rid of the current crop) Leave the boxes in situe as the rats won't use them at first. Once they are being used they will be good. Site the boxes so the rats can slink in and feel protected If you find a hole put grain type poison down it and then cover the entrance securely with earth and stamp down and make sure you can keep non target species away from it till the rat is dead. If the hole gets opened again repeat the exercise until it remains covered. Dont use the blocks as they may carry them around. Try to make sure the bait and box stay dry If poison is being taken keep topping it up, and if you think the rats have gone keep checking the bait stations preferably every few weeks and certainly not more than 6 weeks apart. In peak problem times such as harvest and wet/cold weather be especially vigilant. If rubbish and leaves are being put in the boxes then it is probably harvest mice rather than rats, but in any case look for droppings which are the same colour as the bait if it is being taken, but darkish brown if not. If the droppings look moist or shiny then you know they are fresh and the vermin are active - ones about the size of a woodlouse generally mean rats, small thin ones mice This is only what I have gleaned from what he does, so if someone knows better I am most interested. I don't like killing anything really, but rats are too expensive to keep feeding plus they have certainly killed and eaten ducklings of mine in the past. I don't think rats should have a singular, there is pretty well always more than one
  8. Though he is obviously not pure as such, it makes very little difference if you just fancy having a coq round the place. Its always interesting seeing the interaction between the males and females, and you will probably have chicks next year as well which is fun. The males generally spend a lot of time keeping watch, and will give a range of alarm calls depending on the perceived threat, so they can help the girls take evasive action, and they will call them over if there is anything extra tasty to eat. Make sure there are sufficient hens for him as otherwise they can become a bit threadbare on their backs, but usually if they have complete free range they get out of the way if they are not interested. As long as he is a pleasant temperament and nice to his girls I would say keep him.
  9. Yes - females can lose their "femaleness" and begin to crow and display male features. This generally happens because chickens only have one functioning ovary, and if anything happens to that (often as the result of an illness or infection) then they don't produce enough of the female , and secondary male characteristics come to the fore. When this has happened they will never function fully as a male, so will not fertilize eggs, but neither will they lay eggs. On the other hand I have heard of hens which will make a crowing sound, but still lay eggs, usually when there is no cockerel in the flock. I would suspect time will tell, it will be interesting .
  10. I think you would need to post a photo before anyone could make an informed comment
  11. Looks a wonderful set up, and though it was sad, well done for making the right decision, and having the courage to carry it through. Good chicken keeper
  12. Ok you lot I wish I had kept quiet about this now. 1 - Egg eating is a normal behaviour when egg shells are thin. The danger arises when it becomes a habit, which may first start with a protein imbalance (so think when you are giving "treats" whether they contain more or less protein than their pellets - which often contain the minimum needed for laying). 2 - Hens will naturally lay thin shelled eggs at certain times, particularly when approaching the moult, and especially those high laying hybrids, which have been bred to lay vast quantities of eggs in the first part of their life 3 - The calcium hens need for their egg shells comes actually from their bones, and their feed replaces this. Those hens who have over produced will possibly always have a problem. 4 - You cannot expect any hen to lay eggs whilst they are moulting and regrowing feathers. As they approach the moulting period they will gradually lay fewer eggs, and the shell quality will deteriorate, and even soft shelled eggs occour, and then they will normally cease laying for the duration of the moult. The moulting period tends to start at the end of the summer through into early winter. Depending on the breeding of the hen and the weather conditions it will take a few weeks or 2 months or more. Feeding extra limestone at this time is not going to help, and may overload their kidneys. I would not add oystershell to the feed, but put it in a small individual pot for them to take when they need it. 5 - The milk thing is an emergency "fix" when things are going horribly wrong. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing sometimes and I feel it is best to concentrate on supplying good quality properly balanced feed and as much quality free range as possible. Often these problems are associated with chickens which lay a lot of eggs,ie the modern commercial high laying hybirds. To avoid this you could try to choose a breed which is know for the strength of its shell over a period of time, not simply its first 12 months of lay. 6 - When you are feeding anything don't forget we are much larger volume wise compared to a chicken and adjust your quantities accordingly. Here endeth the lesson for today....... (I remember why I pm'd you now Chestnut Mare rather than posting on open forum ) zakjon-98 - Peck holes in eggs can often mean you have over enthusiatic shell testers rather than thin shelled eggs. Also are you sure they are peck holes and not toe holes which happens when a clumsy layer is adjusting the nest, again not the result of thin shells.
  13. Hens are genetically programmed to eat eggs which are not strong enough to be "sat " on. Most hens, when they have laid, will get their breath back for a few moments, then inspect the egg by a gently tap with their beak. You will sometimes see evidence of this with a small oval hole in the shell, but if the shell is weak the egg breaks, and the hen - waste not want not - will eat the egg and normally the shell and any eggy bedding as well, in other words clean out the nest so other eggs are not at risk of infection. The trouble arises sometimes in that the hen develops a taste for eggs, then will not only eat every one of her own eggs, but may eat others eggs as well, and even worse teach the trick to others in the flock. Chestnut Mare - Milk probably contains easily absorbable calcium and the vitamins needed to help absorption. After all calves must need enormous quantities of calcium for their early growth.
  14. Yes - it would have been me - I am not allowed to be known as D-B-E on here It was a old favourite trick of mine, but apparently some modern day poultry keepers seem to have got the idea that milk is poison for chickens, so I often keep my counsel But as one who kept a milking cow some years ago and fattened cockerels and pigs on skim and wheatings plus kitchen s"Ooops, word censored!"s I can confirm mine all survived (well the required amount of time anyway) I often hesitate to mention feeding extra protein online, as I dislike arguments, and so many folk seem to have absorbed the idea that layers pellets are the ideal ration. They certainly are for the small framed modern commercial hybrids bred to lay maximum eggs on minimum feed value, but not every bird is like that. But certainly unless you are prepared to carefully work out and balance a ration they are the best option. Extra protein is valuable at certain times, ie early growth period, moulting, and for certain breeds like Marans, but how to give this and comply with DEFRA regs is a moot point. Victorian poultry farmers recommended unlimited amount of fresh egg shells or eggs to stop egg eating. Total free range in a varied woodland environment supplemented with a good balanced whole grain diet is probably the answer - but with todays fox population who can provide that But hens coming into or going out of lay will often be taken by surprise and lay soft shelled eggs on the perches. This normally sorts itself out once the laying gets into full swing, which is why I suggested darkened nest boxes and false eggs. If this doesn't work then further measures may be called for.

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