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  1. Thank you all for your kind words, they are much appreciated ❤️ I may only pop on this forum once in a blue moon but it's so nice, valuable and reassuring to have somewhere to turn to for all things chicken related 🤗 x
  2. Thank you Flopsy, did your girl recover? I hope so 🤞🏻 Unfortunately we had to take our lovely hen to the vets this evening to be put down 😢 It was unfair to keep trying to treat her as she hadn't eaten for over a week and only had water from us syringing into her beak. Although she could still be perky at times she was getting more huddled up during the day and the neck dancing and standing tall seemed to increase and she just looked so fed up. Frustratingly we could not get an appointment with the exotics/avian vet until 2nd March and our regular vet said there was nothing else they could try, although they hadn't suggested an antibiotic/tylan or tried to flush her crop...they just don't seem to value chickens very much and this really bothers me 😤 as they are a large practice, both farm and small animal. The Nystatin she had didn't seem to help, in fact up until she had finished her course, her crop was at least emptying, but afterwards it seemed much worse and stayed squishy. I had to cancel the order for Beryl's F Bacteria then yesterday as they called me to tell me there was a delay and they were expecting it in a few days which wasn't soon enough for us to try. Feel happy to have loved and enjoyed her for the last 9 years 🥰 but sad we wont see her strutting around our garden anymore 😢
  3. Thank you for the heads up, will keep this in mind 🤢 x
  4. Thank you mullethunter for your reply and best wishes 🤗 I have ordered some Beryls Friendly Bacteria to give to our sick hen, it will also be handy to give our bantams a dose as well - one has had a slight touch of intermittent diarrhea the last day or so. I have seen Beryls advertised before whilst browsing through chicken lotions and potions but I was put off by the postage costs on top, not cheap 😱 but we'll try anything at this point 🤞🏻
  5. *Update* Hello, I was hoping someone may be able to offer some further advice please with our on-going suspected sour crop. Since my last post our hen has seen a vet who couldn't find anything obviously wrong except the neck dancing and stretching and therefore suspected sour crop. She was given Emeprid, this seemed to calm the neck spasms for a day, she ate a little more and actually drank a small amount herself. We had to wait a few days for the Nystatin, it's 30ml (100,000 unit/ml) to be given at a dose of 5.25ml twice daily on food. We have given it by syringe otherwise she would never have any due to barley eating. We are now out of Nystatin and unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a great improvement. She still barley drinks herself, we have to syringe water, and eats a small amount. Her crop is emptying ok but can still sound a little windy when there's something in there. She's pooing ok, can be bright at times but is fluffed up a lot of the time, not herself at all. I'm thinking now it may possibly be gut related, maybe tumor, old age or could it be that it's too soon for the sour crop to have improved and if so, should we be looking to get more Nystatin? (She's had Nystatin for 3 days altogether, 30ml) Is it worth trying to get some probiotics into her, if so, any recommendations? Avipro has Dextrose, could this make sour crop worse? We have added Life-Guard to the water just so she has something beneficial and we used a little Nuti-drops last week but have run out. I really appreciate any advice as we are not sure what to do now 😔 Although we do realise she's done so well to reach 9 years and has been very healthy and lively up until a week or two back.
  6. ellasflock - I'm so glad the crop op was successful on your hen and you caught it in time. The price the exotics vets quoted for operating on our now deceased little bantam Violets crop, was between £250-350 😱 We were just not in a position to afford that at time however our regular Vet was willing to do the op for around £150 which we decided to try. Sadly when she went in for a pre-op check they were concerned that she was too underweight to survive and could not guarantee it would work so we decided to put her down 😢 We still really miss her she wasn't even a year old. Our elderly hen that now has a crop issue is slightly different in that her crop doesn't seem to be impacted. It's empty in the morning but after eating/drinking it is squishy, water balloon like. I've massaged it a few times today, it sounds a bit gurgley. Vets rang back, they will not prescribe Nystatin without seeing her and they can't fit her in until Monday afternoon 🤦🏻‍♀️ They suggested trying ACV in the meantime but my husband forgot to ask how much? Our chickens have ACV regularly in the drinker anyway but does anyone know what the dosage is for sour crop please? If her crop is empty in the morning, is it best not to feed her and just dose with ACV/Water? She last ate mid morning today until I took the food away. Thank you for any help 🤗
  7. Thank you Beantree for your reply 👍🏻 much appreciated. This afternoon, although I hadn't seen our hen eat much or drink earlier today her crop was much bigger than this morning and soft like a water balloon. We have brought her into the garage out of the cold wind and put her in a pet carrier with some water so that she doesn't eat anymore today. We always feed the layers mash dry although have recently once or twice made it into a warm porridge on the mornings we have had snow/ice. However this has been eaten straight away, nothing remaining after 10 minutes. We are waiting on a callback from the vets on whether they will prescribe Nystatin but I wont hold my breath as they didn't in the past where we eventually had it from the exotics vet who couldn't understand why they they hadn't given it in the first place 🤷🏻‍♀️ We have Daktarin Oral Sugar Free here which we can try if we can't get anything else? I think with our bantam, the crop was so impacted it would never have moved, despite all the massaging we did and things we tried. It was possibly thick grass/straw in a mass or like you said something indigestaible. Operating was the only option but she had become so thin and weak it was kinder to let her go. I'm hoping this situation is different and can be resolved this time 🤞🏻
  8. Hello Everyone, I'm hoping someone may have seen this in one of their chickens before and know what the issue was 🤞🏻 Our lovely 9 year old hen has been a little off this last week, not eating as much, fluffed up and she has started having these neck spasms now and then. It seems worse after she has eaten, her neck does a snake like movement upwards and I've noticed she sometimes stands tall with her neck stretched upwards as if trying to adjust her crop. Her crop is empty in the mornings, it was a little squishy the other day, small, but she's fed on layers mash so it does feel soft in the crop at times anyway. Her poos are a lot smaller than usual but may account for her not eating as much, otherwise the poo looks normal. She's still perky enough to peck our bantams out of the way for corn, her colouring is good. We saw these spasms last year in one our bantams who had a very enlarged crop that would not clear. We tried everything, even an exotics vet twice but we sadly had to put her down in the end 😢 We do not have a specialist avian/exotic vet near, although one consults at our local vets every couple of weeks. Our regular vets unfortunatley do not always seem to know exactly what is wrong when we have taken our birds to them over the years, it is one of the downsides to owning chickens when things do go wrong. I did film a little video clip of these spasms but I can't upload on here Thanks in advance, any advice greatly appreciated 👍🏻
  9. Thank you very much for your replies, it's great to get some good advice 😃 After looking into the testing, as we have already been worming for that past few days we can't get things tested this time around but will look into this from now on. We have dosed our sick hen with Nutri-Drops to try and give her a bit of a boost. She seems okish today, eating, drinking, pecking about but still not herself so will keep trying everything and see how she goes 🤞🏻 With regards to the ACV, Verm- X & DE, I was refering to these as whether they are useful in between worming with a proven wormer such Flubenvet, as a possible deterrent or to maybe make the insides less hospitable for worms? Thanks again 👍🏻
  10. Thanks for replies. How long will the flubenvet take before it starts helping do you know? I will have to stick to this wormer for now as we don't have any Ivermectin but will keep this in mind in future. This is the first time in 8 years of chicken keeping we've dealt with worms, that we know of anyway. We usually worm twice a year with Flubenvet but have let it slip longer between treatments. We use garlic & A C Vinegar regularly but haven't tried things like Verm X or adding D Earth to feed. We do have D.E (food grade). Their run is on a concrete base, part of which is covered with a large rubber horse mat so it's not as harsh on their feet in winter, they only use the run to lay and sleep in, it houses their eglus. They have free access all day every day to free range on a large lawned/orchard area, with some soil borders.
  11. Good Morning, Our 8 year old hen has not been herself for the last 5 days. She was eating and drinking but standing hunched/squat and puffed up a lot of the time and seemed to be moving around slower. She also started to have a mucky bottom so we started to worm with Flubenvet. She had a trip to the vets 2 days ago but they couldn't find anything wrong and said she wasn't egg bound. She's still not herself and we noticed up until today her poo was very small with clear mucus. This morning we kept her locked up in her run, there seemed to be more pooing going on, it was very smelly and I happened to see her poo right by me and noticed it was alive with little worms, about 5mm or so long, I think they were pale brown, hard to tell. By the time I'd gone to get my husband to come and see they were no longer wriggling in the poo and very difficult to see. This is probably why I hadn't noticed them before. Does anyone know if the worms die that quickly out of the body? Also what type of worms they may be? Our little flock free range on grass fenced off but our dog has got in and snaffled poo 😱 I'm going to worm him asap. Apart from continuing with the Flubenvet with all our hens and hoping this clears up and our sick hen starts to improve, are there other things I need to do, medically and cleaning wise. Grateful for any advice and information, thank you 🙂
  12. Many thanks for your replies 😊 Will see what the Vet says but I've a feeling the wound may be too close to the eye to attempt to cauterise as it's actually on the skin that surrounds the eye, in the corner, roughly where our tear ducts are, kind of 😂
  13. Hi, We are at our wits end 😩 with one of our bantams who has a small cut near the inner corner of her eye - It's the skin area not the actual eyeball. We are not 100% sure whether it started out as a peck injury from one of the other girls, we suspect so but once it starts bleeding it runs into her eye which causes her to scratch and make it so much worse. The blood loss is tremendous from such a tiny wound, it's quite a sight when she shakes her head and it sprays everywhere including our faces 😱 This has reocurred now about 6 times over the past month or two. On one occasion she lost so much blood she was really pale and weak for a few days. We have tried everything we can think of and she has been kept seperate during the night now and then for her wound to heal and today, just as the tiny scab had almost gone, she's either been scratching at it again or one of the others has pecked it off (we have seen one looking at her scab before and gently pecking it but we suspect this time she scratched it herself) Trying to stem the flow of blood is a real challange, we use flour as this seems to help most of the time 😕 We just can seem to think how this cycle is ever going to stop. It's in such an awkward place being so close to her eye therefore we can't bandage it or cover it. I did look at liquid plaster but this can't be used near the eye area. Appreciate any suggestions or advice, thank you so much 😊
  14. *Update* After getting nowhere with the regular vets who would not prescribe anything else for our little bantam on the basis the medication we wanted to try was not available for chickens, we finally managed to see an Exotics vet. He couldn't feel anything really fibrous in her crop and didn't suspect sour crop. He tested her poo and all seemed fine. He injected her with Biomoxyl and prescribed a 7 day course of Emperid Oral and was totally miffed why the regular vet was not willing to prescribe this 🤷🏻‍♀️ He said he'd be pleasantly surprised if the Emperid clears everything as the crop is so full and would normally require surgery. He thought she was quite perky and her weight was ok. Today her crop is still full, it does seem to change shape and is sometimes soft, sometimes a bit firmer, things are moving through but very, very slowly. We have starved her for a day but she's back eating and drinking now and despite her problem looks healthy and has plenty of energy (although I know chickens are good at hiding things). Unfortunatly I don't think Surgery is an option as it's very costly and we were told that it may not cure the actual issue, it may still return depending on the cause. We will just have to keep an eye on things, finish the meds and go from there 🤞🏻
  15. Thank you both for your fast replies, really appreciate it 👍🏻 We will try for another few days with the olive oil and massage and some tlc and cross everything 🤞🏻 We don't want her to suffer so if things go downhill quick or do not improve soon we will have to euthenaise her 😢 At the moment she's got good colour, active, drinking, eating, albeit less than normal, she's being pooing a bit more so far today, especially after massaging her crop and it's a mixture of firm/watery but normal colour. We've only had her ( & 3 others) since November, she was around 18 weeks at the time. We are in Wales, Carmarthenshire area and unfortunately although our Vet Practice is a large one, no disrespect meant but we have yet to deal with a vet who "really, really" (old school) knows their stuff about chickens. I suppose they do not deal with many pet chickens, mostly large flocks on farms etc where if they are sick they are usually culled rather than treated. We've kept chickens for the past 8 years and have had to do a lot of research ourselves when one has been sick. We've obviously been lucky in the past as this is the first crop issue we've had to deal with. Will update in a few days 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻 Thanks again

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