Moorcroft Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi all, Me and my wife are after a little help. We own 2 Plymouth Rocks and 2 Wyandotte Bantams. We got them early April 2008 from a breader here in Devon at 8 weeks old. None have layed as yet but 1 gold-laced wyandotte has always seemed to be a bit more "advanced" shall we say in its maturity. Her comb and facial features I am sure seem more like a cock, she also has longer feathers around her neck and a strange thing is her back doesn't seem to be 100% straight so on one side her feather sit over, but they don't on the other side! She also seems to like occasionally when they are first out in their run in the morning and the same when we let them all out in the garden later in the day try's to peck at the others, but then I have seen the other Wyandotte do the same to the smallest Plymouth Rock so....... We have heard no "Cock-a-doodle-do" noises as yet about 5 months in, if she was a cock would she be doing this already??? She does seem a bit more vocal on her clucking. Also this morning I was woken up at 5.20am with them scratching at the coop door to get out in the run, I then heard something that sounded like a crow crowing. I went out straight away to find out it was the gold-laced wyandotte, she did it a few more times once in the run and then stopped, is this her trying or would it be the fact she wanted to go outside? ANY help would be greatly appreciated as we live in the middle of a city so the last thing we want is the cock noise! I was intending to phone the breeders today but they are shut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh sarah Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 i am sorry i cant help, i just wanted to say they are all very beautiful. i am sure someone will be able to answer soon good luck fingers crossed sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Here is a Gold Laced Wyandotte rooster. It is difficult to say from your photos, which are lovely but I wouldn't rule it out. Time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorcroft Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Thanks guys, any more help would be greatly appreciated. Does anyone know, when does a cock start to "cock-a-doodle-doo"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve. Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Did they eat all your plants then steal bury a car upside-down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I think it looks male to me.... The tail feathers look slightly different. Hope im wrong and its a girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 (edited) It is the feathers sweeping over the back that makes me think that it might be of the male persuasion. They start crowing around 5 to six months. Edited June 30, 2008 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 It is the feathers sweeping over the back that makes me think that it might be of the male persuasion. that's what I was thinking Eglutine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorcroft Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Did they eat all your plants then steal bury a car upside-down? We aren't really gardening people.....!! As you can obviously tell!!! As for the wheels, they are just for decoration....!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 The wattles are rather impressive too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucknette Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi Your one does look like a cock to me as the feathering is rather impressive like a cocks. I am also wondering if I have a cock as he/she has very pronounce comb and wattles also spurs are appearing. Is this the same with yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 Oooh, definitely looks blokeish to me - long saddle feathers, chunky legs, pointy hackles. Lovely bird though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorcroft Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Hi Your one does look like a cock to me as the feathering is rather impressive like a cocks. I am also wondering if I have a cock as he/she has very pronounce comb and wattles also spurs are appearing. Is this the same with yours? Yeah most people are thinking the same as us it seems, and she is actually a he! Due to us living in a city it just isn't realistic we can keep him if he is a he, as the neighbour and myself won't be too happy in the mornings, and all day for that matter. Ours has all the sign's of a male, but the spurs are the same size on both wyandottes, pretty small. I have e-mailed the breeders we got them from today but they are closed, but atleast when I phone them tomorrow morning they can check the e-maail and we can go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Pimlott Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 it doesnt look like either is it a cross? it does not have the correct tail for a wyandotte and is not the correct colour for a male, more correct to that of a female, it also has a female type head, however it appears to have saddle hackles which you would expect to find in a male, but then again no sickles are apparent... its a hard one LOL lookig at your pics i would edge towards female but it will probably proove me wrong & crow a GL male K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorcroft Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 it doesnt look like either is it a cross? it does not have the correct tail for a wyandotte and is not the correct colour for a male, more correct to that of a female, it also has a female type head, however it appears to have saddle hackles which you would expect to find in a male, but then again no sickles are apparent... its a hard one LOL lookig at your pics i would edge towards female but it will probably proove me wrong & crow a GL male K Its great to have your advise! It certainly is a strange little girl/boy. Compared to our silver laced wyandotte bantam she/he is slightly larger but the same general shape, the main difference is the facial features and the hair on the neck and back. This morning I left the door to the eglu closed, was intending to open it at 05.45, but they woke us up at about 05.20 to them tapping on the door to get out into the run and also we heard a crowing noise, it was this little one that was doing it, but once out she soon stopped, is this normal for hens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Pimlott Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 if its all females a hen can take on a more dominent role, do a crow to a fashion & tred hens etc... but it may not lay. we had a female salmon faverolle crow but not lay.. it was definately a female too 110% K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorcroft Posted June 30, 2008 Author Share Posted June 30, 2008 Yeah we remember reading that about hens, one sometimes try's to be the most dominant so will try to take on the role of a male, and copy what a male would do. Certainly when it clucks its a more lower, and louder pitch/volume. if she feels threatened, like a cat comes in the garden she will now it seems try to take charge and cluck more viciously, but sometime its the main Plymouth Rock that takes charge, and she is certainly becoming more mature. WEIRD!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moorcroft Posted July 1, 2008 Author Share Posted July 1, 2008 Karen, got home from work today to find our first egg layed, but we don't know who did it! So will have to keep an eye out over the weekend when we are home. Did see Roxy, the silver laced Wyandotte in question earlier this evening mount one of the Plymouth Rock's and go for it, so I would take it that really shows she is actually a he wouldn't it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
