Charlottechicken Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I was expecting to read about the German Huf Haus manufacturers going into bee hive production, when I clicked on this thread Wonder what names they rejected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 I think Beeju would be better (bijou - small and well-formed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJuff Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 WOW! This is what I've been waiting for!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilda-and-evadne Posted July 20, 2009 Share Posted July 20, 2009 One thing I'm annoyed about is that they say they're going to launch a yellow one, yet they won't reintroduce the yellow eglu, which is what I really want. I read on this forum somewhere and some while back that the yellow eglus attracted more flies than the other colours. Perhaps that's why they won't reintroduce the yellow eglu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I WANT I WANT! Told Mum last night that I want one for Christmas. She said "We are not getting bees". hmmmmmmm. I seem to remember her saying "we are not getting chickens" her latest line is "should we get another eglu - we don't have enough nesting boxes". So what colour shall I have for Christmas??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 One thing I'm annoyed about is that they say they're going to launch a yellow one, yet they won't reintroduce the yellow eglu, which is what I really want. I read on this forum somewhere and some while back that the yellow eglus attracted more flies than the other colours. Perhaps that's why they won't reintroduce the yellow eglu. I can believe that, my son had to wear a yellow tshirt for sports day and his team were absolutely smothered in flies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenanne Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I don't think it's that frighteningly expensive compared to new wooden hives, or polly hives. However...ideally you would need a spare BB for each colony for doing artificial swarms. And a couple extra supers for each colony in case of bumper crop. And mouse guard, feeders, etc etc. And you would want to be able to get something quickly: e.g. an extra super.... so the long lead time for cubes etc would not work for a hive. Don't see the advantage over a cheaper National sized polly hive, TBH, but maybe when we see them we will! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybird Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Chucky Mama said I think Beeju would be better (bijou - small and well-formed) That would be such a good name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorbloodnock Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Chucky Mama said I think Beeju would be better (bijou - small and well-formed) That would be such a good name Although you could hardly market a 20,000 bedroom residence as bijou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busybird Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Didn't think of that! I still think it would be a great name though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 One thing I'm annoyed about is that they say they're going to launch a yellow one, yet they won't reintroduce the yellow eglu, which is what I really want. I read on this forum somewhere and some while back that the yellow eglus attracted more flies than the other colours. Perhaps that's why they won't reintroduce the yellow eglu. I can believe that, my son had to wear a yellow tshirt for sports day and his team were absolutely smothered in flies Not really-not according to current Yellow eglu owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftyhunnypie Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Wow! only just seen this. Will they be suitable for back gardens or not? Are they going to come with the bees? Emma.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 The question is really whether your back garden is suitable for a beehive! I don't think these will be any more or less suitable than any other sort, it depends on your location and your neighbours. You can buy bees through the post but it's often easier and cheaper to get a swarm via your local beekeeping association. What I really hope is that they will be encouraging people to join their local group and get some training. Bees are a bit more complicated than chickens, and at least you know your chickens aren't suddenly going to fly off in a big cloud! I wouldn't have ventured into it without the support of local beekeepers. I wonder if they've had some trial versions, I'm aware that there were some changes and teething problems with the first Eglus, but you can't move bees around quite as easily as you can move chickens. Lots of questions, no answers as yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I think Beeju would be better (bijou - small and well-formed) It even goes with Eglu and everything, I prefer Beeju Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Am I mis-remembering here, or is there an old saying that bees can't be exchanged for money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorbloodnock Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I have a funny feeling you may be right. No matter; Omlet simply need to change the small print so what you're buying is the Beehaus and beekeeping kit, and that they'll chuck a few bees in for free (on second thoughts, for "chuck", read "place very carefully so as not to annoy"). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Do you think they will sell them with the bees then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenanne Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 You can buy and sell bees, there are companies in the UK who do just that. Mostly imported bees (a huge can of worms there: suffice to say many /most lcoal BKA would rather not see imported bees in their area). I hope Omlet don't supply bees with the hive. Most commercial set-ups supply a nuc of bees, not a full hive, this is better for beginners. So will that mean Omlet will design nuc boxes too? Most commercial set-ups import bees, which IMO is not very sustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craftyhunnypie Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I wouldn't have one where I live at present - but one might be good on my sisters farm if we tended to it. Or even some landshare land. We both want to become beekeepers in the future & would go about it properly - courses, societies etc. I'm curious to see a photo of it though. Emma.x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christian Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 I want to see one OH is beehobic, so still a bit of work to do there Haus is German for house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m100 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Just done a bit of a costing with what little knowledge I have so far ( 2 mini courses ) and tbh, I'd say it compares reasonably favorably. It depends what you get in the complete Beehaus package. Approx prices of 'traditional' gear. National Hive ~ £ 315 new. Astronaut style Jacket and hood ~ £40 Smoker ~ £16 Leather gloves ~ £15 Assorted tools ~ £20 And that is just for starters From one the biggest existing supplier of beekeeping equipment you can already get a complete package excluding bees for the following amounts £108 for the hive (in cedar, that will last 50 years and uses no petrochemicals) £152 for above plus smoker, hive tool, leather gloves, jacket and veil, bee brush, smoker cartridges, 1 gallon feeder and a mouseguard. £239 for all the above plus manual extractor, three 15lb buckets, one 30lb bucket with fitted nylon valve, a nylon double strainer and an uncapping fork. all these prices are plus VAT but carriage is free. A nucleus of bees from a local bee keeping association will be from £40- £80, a swarm will cost nothing. So you can be up and running with bees for around 350 quid, or 270 quid if you get a swarm. Plastic frames are truly horrible things, plastic hives also cause massive problems if your bees get foul brood as they cannot be disposed of by burning on site (mandatory by DEFRA if your bees get American foul brood) nor can they be scorched out with a blowtorch if you get European foul brood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daphne Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Which supplier is that then? I'm feeling a bit hard done by having bought hive/2xsupers/guard etc tool and smoker for £280 (cedar). My glamourous outfit was another £45 but I thought that was very good for an all in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m100 Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Not sure if I can mention them by name, but entering bee keeping supplies in Google returns them as the top of the list. then click on the "Bees on a budget" link top left of the page. The hive pack is as follows Flat packed National Hive, comprising an open mesh floor, brood body with 11 DN4 frames on metal runners, 11 sheets of british standard deep wired foundation, harmless queen excluder, two supers each with 10 SN1 frames on metal castellations, 20 sheets of british standard shallow wired foundation, crownboard with two plastic porter bee escapes and a 4” roof. The hive includes full assembly instructions, glue and nails for all hive parts and frames. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks for the information m100, that site is really interesting too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daphne Posted July 21, 2009 Share Posted July 21, 2009 Thanks! Better prices than our local supplier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
