A chickychickychick-ENN!! Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Oh tarnation. I love Kit Kats. But I love orang-utans more. Interesting Greenpeace microsite campaign about how eating a KitKat is doing for the big furry orange ones. http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/climate-change/kitkat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..lay a little egg for me Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I have sent the e-mail to Nesle's CEO. Palm oil is the cause of so much suffering both in the countries that grow it and those that consume it. As well as the damage to the environment, it is damaging to consumers' health being a fat that worsens cholesterol levels and so increases risk of heart disease. Avoiding palm oil is pretty tricky though as it is in so much stuff. Anything that says "vegetable oil" in the ingredients without specifying what it is will most likely be palm oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&T Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I am coming to the conclusion that ANYTHING produced from any large company is a complete no no. Just as well my New Years resolution is to buy less from Supermarkets, and more from my local ethical butchers, and the local farmers shop. But that doesn't help things like the odd sneaky chocolate bar, or crisps etc. And I LOVE kit kats - and they aren't too many points on the Weight Watchers Diet either. PANTS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majorbloodnock Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Agreed. I've been boycotting Nestlé ever since I learned about the formula milk/third world countries issue, and that's about 8 years ago. I can't guarantee I've been 100% successful, but have never knowingly bought or consumed anything of theirs since that point. There have been times when I've lost sight of whether or not they'd stopped their nefarious formula milk activities, but continued the boycott anyway on the grounds that if they're unethical enough to do something like that once, and cynical enough only to stop when they're found out, there will be plenty of other morally unconscionable practices they're undertaking to turn a profit. That's just not something I'm prepared to be party to. Similarly, as just mentioned, I've come to the conclusion that the only way to have a reasonable confidence in what I and my family consume is to get in as early as possible in the production process - right at the beginning where we can (vegetables, eggs, fruit etc.). My confidence in the ethics of any organisation involving shareholders is, I'm afraid, pretty much non-existent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I'm really interested to know why Greenpeace have decided to have a go at Nestle about this. Don't get me wrong, I am completely against the dreadful deforestation being caused by companies' greed for palm oil, but there are hundreds if not thousands of companies using palm oil in their products, so why just Nestle? It makes me cross that palm oil is just about impossible to avoid - last time I checked my shampoo contained it so I had to switch brands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Rosie has formed a group at school to campaign about this very subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubereglu Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 They're not the worst culprits by any means, and they are at least using fairtrade chocolate now, so why they can't use ethically sourced palm oil I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoid Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 They are ethically sourcing palm oil from 2011 (I think, it was on Britain's most disgusting food - milk) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I have sent the e-mail to Nesle's CEO. Palm oil is the cause of so much suffering both in the countries that grow it and those that consume it. As well as the damage to the environment, it is damaging to consumers' health being a fat that worsens cholesterol levels and so increases risk of heart disease. Avoiding palm oil is pretty tricky though as it is in so much stuff. Anything that says "vegetable oil" in the ingredients without specifying what it is will most likely be palm oil. I've just been eating spicy rice crackers from Julian graves and the ingredients list said; rice, palm oil.... It was 2nd in the list, you'd think rice crackers would be reasonably healthy eek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopsie Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Considering what Nestle do every day to the human population of the world, they really aren't going to be bothered with the animal one i'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostin Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Grrrrrrrrrrr nestle = evil and now Cadburys = evil all my favourite foods are being taken away from me *sobs* So why aren't I still a size 10? hmmmmm must bake another ethically sound cake this afternoon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky1 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 I am coming to the conclusion that ANYTHING produced from any large company is a complete no no. I'm with you on that C&T. The amount of rubbish that's in processed food, and the unhealthy, unnatural, unsafe, and cruel processes. All in the name of profit and efficiency There, I feel better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopsie Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Hotel Chocolat and Divine Mostin - I don't miss the other ones at all!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Hotel Chocolat and Divine Mostin - I don't miss the other ones at all!!!! Don't encourage her Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopsie Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Oh i shall Claret! I think I actually eat less chocolate since changing the quality of it (say she with a box of Maltesers in her hand!) I've just called Hotel Chocolate regarding the palm oil issue and asked about free range eggs - they are working on both issues and are going to pass on my phone call to the managers! YAY for customer power! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
..lay a little egg for me Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Grrrrrrrrrrr nestle = evil and now Cadburys = evil all my favourite foods are being taken away from me *sobs* So why aren't I still a size 10? hmmmmm must bake another ethically sound cake this afternoon . Same problem here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostin Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Don't encourage her Oh i shall Claret! I think I actually eat less chocolate since changing the quality of it (say she with a box of Maltesers in her hand!) I've just called Hotel Chocolate regarding the palm oil issue and asked about free range eggs - they are working on both issues and are going to pass on my phone call to the managers! YAY for customer power! Let me know the answers you get Whoopsie, just for research purposes you understand . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopsie Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Well Hotel Chocolat said they can't guarantee free range eggs at the moment because their chocolates come from different sources (esp. for the tasting club). What does make me laugh though is that they're not Fair trade accredited because they found they already did far more! Apparently Fair Trade certification is quite limiting regarding what type of business it applies to. HT have a (rather extensive) ethics policy instead including their own growers. Yum Yum Yum!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostin Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 Yum indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A chickychickychick-ENN!! Posted March 19, 2010 Author Share Posted March 19, 2010 I've just called Hotel Chocolate regarding the palm oil issue and - they are working on both issues and are going to pass on my phone call to the managers! Are you saying they DO use palm oil? I love HC. Surprised by that. Haven't found an ingredients sheet in tasting club boxes. I hope they sort that out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoopsie Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I don't actually know if they do use palm oil, only that the customer services woman said they'd had letters about it and were researching the issue. I have a feeling it is used in a lot of chocolate though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
