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[Chucky Mama]

My son is a year 6 and so in the last few weeks of primary school (this is the school that disciplined the children for reading a newspaper at break time ). He is very sporty and historically in the school and I should think in a lot of other small primary schools when there is a football match the year 6's play unless there are not enough players. Unfortunately this year there is 1 father who 'helps out' with football and his year 4 and 5 children keep being selected along with their year 4 and 5 friends. It is only 5 or so weeks until the Year 6's leave primary school and this is their last chance to play for the school. 1 final mini tournament has been booked and the team contains 1 year 6 (girl) and the rest are year 4 and 5 boys

Of course my sporty year 6 who is usually top goal scorer when allowed to play want to play as do his friends. Do I complain or do I let it go? Nothing can be done about this tournament as it is not fair the the children that have been selected to be deselected but should I ask for them to try to arrange another match for the year 6 boys. I have been quite a 'vocal' parent during my many years in the school, often fighting other people's battles. I just wonder if I need to walk away from this one or not

[Guest]

HI

 

I have two sons and I think you are going to have to get use to this kind of thing, a lot of fathers become managers of teams and quite a few will pick their own offspring as a bit of a bonus as to running the side. As he is in year six and moving on to another school I would nt let it niggle you. Suggest another team on the proviso its their final year and would be ashame to miss one last chance to play for their school.

 

End of all you can do.

 

 

One of my sons schools won the village football tournament and I went to see them collect the trophy and it was given to another school as it was fair and sporting to do this????

So the winners were sitting waiting to collect their prize and they actually awarded it to another school(my sons school had done nothing wrong). Political correctness gone mad I always argued that when you go for an interview you dont say oh I will let you have the job, because I am fair and sporting.

 

I diverse, if the other parents children are so good at football all I can say is they will get found out. You will find a football team locally who are fairer at selection they do exist. My son played for another village and his teacher said it will do him good to expand his group of friends out of the local area

 

good luck indie

[Ain't Nobody Here]

It does seem very unfair to deny the year 6 kids the chance when it's the last opportunity they'll have to play at that school .

 

If there are enough year 6 players, the "coach" is being very unfair putting 4s and 5s in . Bit of nepotism there, methinks.

 

Are there other parents who feel the same way? If a few of you were keen to have an extra match, could you offer to organise it?

[Chucky Mama]

There are plenty of year 6 boys that want to play. Some of them finally got to play yesterday but over half of the team were year 5's and even the captain was a year 5 - guess who? Son of pushy Dad - he isn't even the official coach, he has just bullied his way in. My son and another child that has been edged out of the team (very good and was signed for Southampton) scored all the goals. This father somehow gets to pick the teams and I suspect has to pick children that make his son look good Unfortunately the other parents agree but it is alway me that does something about it. I don't know if I have the energy for anther battle so close to being out of the school.

[abwsco]

It sounds like it's really riling you so I would have to say something.

 

It's a while since my DD's were in Year 6 but for any important sports games it was always a given that Year 6 team members would play towards the end of the season. Year 5's would be subs.

[theherd123]

Back in the day when i used to teach in primary i ran the football team (at first the male parents were outraged!)

 

I used to pick the team from the Year 6 classes and if there was an outstanding player from the Yr 5 classes they may get a look in.

The way i saw it was that if the students stayed at the school until Year 6 they would get a chance at playing on the team.

 

One year i had to pick from Yrs 5 & 4 as there were only 9 boys in the two year 6 classes!

 

I think you need to pick your battles carefully and ask yourself some questions.

How bothered is your son about this?

How bothered are you about this?

Does your son play for a footabll team outside school where his talents are appreciated?

Will you be concerned about this in 6 months time?

 

Hope it all gets sorted soon

[Chucky Mama]

I have decided to go into school and ask if a match can be arranged for the year 6 boys before they leave. It really isn't fair as there are boys that have been going to football club every week since reception and they have been waiting to get into year 6 to be given a chance of a match. Only 3 have played so far and that was once in a team made up of year 5's. 2 year 5's have played in every match. They are not being chosen because of ability as they are not very good. It is just not fair. I don't even mind if my son doesn't get chosen (althought it would be strange if he wasn't) but these poor boys have been waiting for this opportunity for 6 years. My OH said that it would be interesting if the current year 5's were passed over next year when they are year 6's for the year 5's but of course that is not going to happen! I really hate unfairness. If I go into school to help with something like judging a competition my children know that there is no way that I would pick them as winner even if they were the best.

[Ain't Nobody Here]

I think you've done the right thing . Let us know how you get on .

[Chucky Mama]

Well, I went to school and with another parent asked if it was possible for the year 6's to have a match before they leave. Head said that she would to us but when YS spoke to her yesterday she said 'maybe'. In the meantime there is a match that has been arranged for tomorrow and guess what - all year 5's bar 1 year 6 girl playing (girl is daughter of TA in school!) I am soooo cross . It adds insult to injury that YS was sent home with an invitation to a gifted and talented sports course How can that be? As a gifted and talented sports person how can you not be in the school football team The team is now made up of Year 5's who have 'connections' in school.

 

DH has gone into school this morning to speak to Head Teacher as this plus that fact that they can be disciplined for reading a newspaper (especially when the member of staff supervising spends the lunchtime on her mobile) is really beyond a joke. My other 2 children have been telling YS that year 6 is the best as you are finally a big fish in a small pond before they go on to the large Secondary School and become a very small fish in a very large pond. This unfortunately hasn't been the case this year which is such a shame

 

I thought that I could last until the end of term but I am too cross. Can't go down to school with DH as I have a really irritating habit of crying when I am furious

 

Sorry for the long rant but I am sooo cross

[abwsco]

Hope your DH does get somewhere. Sorry to hear your DS's Year 6 is being spoilt by something like this

 

My DD's are now aged 17 and 18 but my youngests Year 6 was spoilt by the Heads hatred of quite a few of the class. and the "tricks" she played with them, so I know how you're feeling. The Head took early retirement a year after but I think she jumped before she was pushed due to some very serious complaints against her at the time. Sorry I've gone OT.

[Chucky Mama]

DH back from school. Saw Head and YS Class Teacher (both of which were free all morning which in itself is a bit concerning!). They just hadn't got the fact that year 6's need to play in year 6 football matches; particularly in their final year. Not only that but if they do play (which is rare and then only 1 get a chance), they definately shouldn't play under a year 5 captain! Hopefully it has now sunk in . It also turns out YS is essentially being bullied by the Mid Day Supervisor (Dinner Lady in my day) - this it turns out is why he was disiplined for reading the newspaper and lunchtime . They were both shocked and a little ashamed that they were unaware of the situation. They are going to act immediately.

 

I get the impression that they are out of touch with what is going on in the school. The large Year 6 class is being taught by a student teacher with very little input from the Class teacher and the football has been handed over to a newly qualified teacher with no input from anyone other than a pushy football dad.

 

I am determined to make the last few weeks memorable for the year 6's for all of the right reasons. It is a small village school and they are going on to a large secondary school. These should be the best carefree days of their lives. I really hope that things pick up before it is too late.

 

Sorry to offload, hopefully this will be then end of it.

[MedusA]

I agree wholheartedly with the approach you've taken. I do hope it gets a positive outcome.

 

When my DD went to Middle School (Year 5-, she had a horrible last year there as the "popular" kids fell out with her and she was picked on to a degree. Fortunately that all changed when she went to Upper School and she became one of the most popular girls there. She still keeps in contact with many of her old friends, even though she's 24 now.

 

I'm telling you all this to illustrate the point that your son will be moving on in September and I'm sure his talents will be recognised there, away from the biased, pushy Soccer-Dad. I still feel you are justified in bringing the issue to attention of the head, who doesn't seem to know what's going on in the school, TBH, which is worrying.

[Ain't Nobody Here]

I'm glad you managed to get your feelings across but sorry that you've found out such negative things about the school .

 

So have they actually agreed that a Year 6 match should go ahead? With NO Year 5s hopefully .

[Chucky Mama]

I'm glad you managed to get your feelings across but sorry that you've found out such negative things about the school .

 

So have they actually agreed that a Year 6 match should go ahead? With NO Year 5s hopefully .

 

They got back to me this afternoon to say that they can't find a school to play against as they have all moved on to athletics and rounders. The Head said that she will perhaps try and get a staff vs Year 6 match which is about as good as we are going to get I think. I just hope that they don't try and suggest a Year 6 vs Year 5 match although YS says he would relish wiping the floor with them. I am trying to be positive now to ensure a happy child at the end of term that can look back fondly on his primary years.

 

Am off to the secondary school where my other 2 children are for an awards evening. Can't wait for YS to start as they actually celebrate success and promote excellence, competition and effort