Guest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) It seems that you are on your own with this one Offspring! I know. lol It's funny how everyone has their own view on what becomes socially acceptable and feels so strongly about something! I have to put up with the infuriating noise of peoples kids when I go out, why should that be pushed on me? So if we all had our selfish own way and dogs can't do their business, there should be a ban on kids in the country then! Edited April 8, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 It's a point of view. Not one I subscribe to though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 There's room for everyone in the country, just minus the poop Just come back from a walk and it's lovely out BBX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) Me neither. My point is that I understand that everyone is different. And I don't expect everyone to behave in a certain way, just because I want them to, or it's become "socially unacceptable". I'm a non smoker, always have been, always will be. But when I used to go to the pub/club etc. I had no problems with smokers, in fact it was a nice reminder to see how diverse our population is. After all it was their own choice whether or not to smoke and it was also my choice whether or not to go there and be surrounded by it. No one was ever forced to go to a pub and breathe second hand smoke, but people went and did it and complained. No one is forced to go for a walk in the country and step on poo, but people do and complain! I know i'm on my own on this, but I don't mind because that is what makes us different and surely it's also nice to see that most of us are mature enough to be able to participate in a pleasant discussion over something so controversial... Edited April 8, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbug Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I think dog poo should be picked up and taken home whereever you are. I have two dogs and if they ever do anything outside of home I pick up. Nothing nice about a pile of dog poo left! Even worse if you thread in it...yuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajm200 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Children are easily excitable and noisy but we were all children once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina C Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 This is a very interesting debate. No-one likes stepping in doggy dos so in my opinion you should pick it up. In the same way that if your child poos while out on a walk you should pick it up Well it does happen..... However it got me thinking - when I was young (the 60s/70s) I don't remember dog poo being picked up - what happened to it then? I know our dog used to do her business at home in the garden but surely not all dogs did? Also if you must leave your dog poo lying around Offspring please can I ask that you do what mountain walkers who get 'caught out' are advised to do and cover it up with stones? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Also if you must leave your dog poo lying around Offspring please can I ask that you do what mountain walkers who get 'caught out' are advised to do and cover it up with stones? Thank you. See that kind of makes sense because on the eco side of things leaving it to wash into the ground has to be the best thing. I wouldnt like to see lots of piles of stones on paths but maybe in those out the way places it would be better than using another bag. Even biod nappy sacks take years to break down on landfills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilda-and-evadne Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 My point is that I understand that everyone is different. And I don't expect everyone to behave in a certain way, just because I want them to, or it's become "socially unacceptable". This is not about what is and what is not socially acceptable. Not picking up after one's dog is ANTI-social. Come to London, and if you do not pick up after your dog you can be fined £100 on the spot. Every time. (Some years ago, there was a man in Lewisham who could refused to see that he was committing an offence by not picking up after his dog; by the time he was taken to court by the local council, he had accumulated £1,000 in fines.) By comparing dog poo hazard with passive smoking in pubs hazard, you are not comparing like with like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 However it got me thinking - when I was young (the 60s/70s) I don't remember dog poo being picked up - what happened to it then? I know our dog used to do her business at home in the garden but surely not all dogs did? The knowledge about the harm that Toxicara can do was probably not mainstream then. I remember a huge drive about clearing up dog mess years ago....with this being the main thrust. If it prevents one child going blind........well there is no argument really is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I wish someone would fine whoever it is that lets their dog foul right outside the school gates and doesnt clear it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 See that kind of makes sense because on the eco side of things leaving it to wash into the ground has to be the best thing. I wouldnt like to see lots of piles of stones on paths but maybe in those out the way places it would be better than using another bag. Even biod nappy sacks take years to break down on landfills. What? That's not someone that's almost in a roundabout way, coming around to my way of thinking is it? It was kind of fence sitting though, so I don't think it really counts! lol Anyway in answer to the question about people did in the past. Yes, they just left it to biodegrade naturally, common sense in my opinion. Anyone that said they picked it up is lying because it was socially accetable to let nature take it's course. But over time people have been conditioned into beleveing that it isn't acceptable and some people put pressure on the government to act, hence the dog fouling law. So instead we are now left with the problem of putting more plastic bags into landfill as well as the increase on council tax to cover the expenses of this new system. I'm not a carbon footprint, planet saving hippy either. But I don't like to see packaging/bags wasted needlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I wish someone would fine whoever it is that lets their dog foul right outside the school gates and doesnt clear it up! Agreed. I'm not saying people should just let their dogs do their business everywhere. Especially in areas likely to be populated by children such as parks, beaches, paths etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helly Welly Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I don't remember there beinhg so much dog poo on the paths as there is now, maybe there were less dogs when i was a child. Where i live you have to continually pick your way around all the muck on the pavement, that can't be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 See that kind of makes sense because on the eco side of things leaving it to wash into the ground has to be the best thing. I wouldnt like to see lots of piles of stones on paths but maybe in those out the way places it would be better than using another bag. Even biod nappy sacks take years to break down on landfills. What? That's not someone that's almost in a roundabout way, coming around to my way of thinking is it? coming round? I never stated an opinion in the first place thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 This is not about what is and what is not socially acceptable. Not picking up after one's dog is ANTI-social. Who defines what is anti social? When does something that is seen as the norm such as smoking all of a sudden become anti social? Get a grip on reality it is not anti social. A good example of anti social behaviour is constantly playing loud music next door to your house until 6am. While we are on the subject of anti social behaviour, I notice that ASBO's are having a really positive effect on the community. This kind of punishment does not work! All it does is glorify the issue and not solve the root of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 See that kind of makes sense because on the eco side of things leaving it to wash into the ground has to be the best thing. coming round? I never stated an opinion in the first place thank you That sounds very much to me like you were coming around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Keeping to topic, it's good everyone has something to say and from what I've read none of us want to have dog mess on our shoes etc. BBx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 (edited) Keeping to topic, it's good everyone has something to say and from what I've read none of us want to have dog mess on our shoes etc. BBx Agreed and it's easily achieved by watching where you walk. Quote: Mrs. Richards: Didn't God give you eyes? Polly: Yes, but I don't use them, because it wears the batteries out. - Cracking quote there from Fawlty Towers! Edited April 8, 2008 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina C Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I think your original post may have been slightly misread? It starts like this ...Does anyone else agree that clearing up after dog poop is complete insanity? Which most people do not agree with But then you do say this I think it's fair enough on tarmac pathways and playing fields/parks/campsites etc. But it's going too far when you are talking about rural and/or coastal areas. Up a mountain in the Lake District I do not get quite so upset about dog poo as I do when in my local park etc. So I agree with your basic contention - in remote areas - but as I said before I would rather that it is covered up/buried. However I think your comments about children have not really helped your cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helly Welly Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Keeping to topic, it's good everyone has something to say and from what I've read none of us want to have dog mess on our shoes etc. BBx Agreed and it's easily achieved by watching where you walk. Didn't god give you eyes? Or don't you use them because you don't want to wear the batteries down? - Cracking quote there! I'm sure we all watch where we walk, but i'm on cructhes which is difficult enough without having to pick my way around dog poo and watch my DD doesn't tread in it either. A little bit of consideration from dog owners would go a long way. Instead of moaning at pedestrians for not looking where they are going, why not tackle the problem and persuade a manufacturer to come up with paper bags that work with poop scoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 See that kind of makes sense because on the eco side of things leaving it to wash into the ground has to be the best thing. coming round? I never stated an opinion in the first place thank you That sounds very much to me like you were coming around! Who said my opinion wasnt more extreme than yours in the first place! Its not but as I said I hadnt stated an opinion so no I'm not coming around to your way of thinking bcause to be honest I was thinking along the same lines as Tina C in the first place. You havent 'turned' me in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bokbok Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Not just pedestrians either - when your back bike wheel flicks it up Congrats on finally getting your badge Helly Welly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helly Welly Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Not just pedestrians either - when your back bike wheel flicks it up Congrats on finally getting your badge Helly Welly Imagine trying to avoid the stuff when you are on three wheels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Yeah well done Helly Welly on getting your disabled badge... I do hope you manage to find a disabed parking space when you go for your hikes in the country dodging all this dog mess! Most hated person on forum at the moment = me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
