sandyhas3chucks Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 thanks yes it was all a tad confusing with 2 posts on here & another sadly not done as well as Lizzie & Flo.on another forum. No expert but my guess would be if there is an organic blockage the maggots will have helped. Guess you will be following Flo's eating feeding advice too. Personally I would be making sure that plenty of wet material, like lettuce, cucumber grapes cabbage, pro biotic yogurt is given so lots of moisture without sloppy mashy food all the time. oh and apples. ACV in the water might help keep sour crop at bay also. Probably pretty much as you have been doing so far. I am a newly converted for oregano products and use oregostim and have had good results and the trials they have done are pretty impressive at killing off all sorts of nasty bacteria. I am just willing these croppy girls to get better unlike mine. Well done for getting her this far, let each day be a bonus,for both of you. (hugs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizzie Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 Morning Keeping up to date with your poorly chook I do fully understand what you are going through as Flo is the same, up and down. This morning she didn't seem so great, standing with eyes closed - could she be starting to lay eggs again, could it be the drugs taking more of an effect ? I really don't know, but I don't want her to be suffering so will monitor today / tomorrow. I must add that Flo does (sometimes and only when she is going to drink) a funny head movement as you describe Sandy. If this is not a good sign at all then I have my answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted July 22, 2009 Share Posted July 22, 2009 My poor wee Moe did the movements near constantly, as her crop was full and I was too scared to fully empty it and keep doing so! I don't think the vet fully realised the implication or how bad it was and thought the metronizidole would take the yeast infestion away. I wish she had been crop drained now at the first sign of full fluid crop, maybe she would have stood more chance. Hindsiite a splendid thing. You could also hear the fluid sqishing with the break necking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peta Posted July 25, 2009 Author Share Posted July 25, 2009 Hi Everyone, No change with Lizi, still has a small lump in crop and some days it has more fluid then others. I think I will try and get her more maggots and make it a weekly treat. Thank sfor the support, but it looks like we have tried it all and now it is just a matter of maintaining her. I sure hope she puts on some weight. One vet I saw told me no pallets with an impacted crop and that grains are best - just an idea for others, this did seem to help Lizi. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 why weekly treat.? they keep in the fridge fine... you can buy a special container or seated normal with tiny air holes. A few a day may help more.... just a thought. Would you mind asking your vet why grains not pellets. No particular reason only "like to now" Seems like you are doing all you can... Long as she is happy. as ever good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstarred Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 This is going to sound a wee bit strange but I read that turning them upside down helps - we tried this a few minutes ago and it seems to have worked - Maude went to sleep whilst upside down which was odd but all the gunk in her squishy and massive crop came out. She is now running around like her old self thank heavens. I agree with the few white maggots a day too. Quick question though - lots of people have mentioned massaging the crop if it gets bad - how do you do that? circular, pressing downwards or upwards - very gentle or quite firm? Many thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Hello welcome, it just means squishing the contents of the crop gently between your fingers to help break it down. That is for blocked crop rather than sour crop though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 one vet simply sort of stroked/massaged the crop upwards whilst the chook was standing, he didn't get mush up though there was loads but didn't really seem to be trying to. It didn't work, i tipped her myself 5 hours later,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northstarred Posted July 25, 2009 Share Posted July 25, 2009 Hello welcome, it just means squishing the contents of the crop gently between your fingers to help break it down. That is for blocked crop rather than sour crop though Thanks very much Plum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peta Posted July 26, 2009 Author Share Posted July 26, 2009 Hi, as for the pallets, I was told that they just turn in to soft mush and would aggravate the blockage while grains will be easier to pass. Daily maggots may be a good idea as we are back to collecting fluid in the crop, I truly believe now that the muscle has become week and it is just unable to do what it needs to. I can live with the maggots in the fridge, it's the taking them out ..... x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I came down one morning to find they had escaped luckily cotained in the salad boxes. I had forgotten to leave them with food and the side of the container clearly not clean/dry enough, allowing them to climb. I got used to them but would never have4 thought I would. I did wonder if that was why no pellets... I wonder if mash is the same? good luck still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
