sjp Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 the Black Araucana chick died this afternoon I found it in the run huncth up with it's wings slightly open when I let Faith and the chicks out to FR tried to get it to drink just incase but it wasn't intrested.tried putting some on it's beak with a syringe as well but it just didn't want to know i put a bit to munch on so i held the chick with it's beak pointing down to let the water run off thats when the off white/yellowish fluid came out of it's beak I've had a look through the books can't find any answers as any body got any ideas please the chick as been eating as it's little crop was full it had been running aroud all right this morning and was feathering up nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meezers Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Aw, what a shame, RIP little chick. Sorry, have no idea what may have caused it, though the fluid from the beak did ring a bell with a post I read on Practical poultry forum a few weeks ago, but I think that chick was a few hours old I'll have a look later, see if I can find the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathybc Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 sorry to hear about your chick x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Sorry about your poor chick Do check the chicks for signs of Coccidiosis as wings slightly away from the body and/or dropped is a sign of it The liquid from the mouth may just be as a result of spasms upon dying Sometimes though chicks just arent strong enough to make it and there is no obvious cause of death Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 the RIR has died now i was a bit sad looking about 8 am when I checked them but i was moving about a bit like a hen thats got a softie on the way found it about 10:30 completly stiff and stone cold the RIR was the first to hatch the Black Araucana chick was the second both were about day early hatching by my maths the Black Araucana chick was about 13 days old the RIR was 13.5 days old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 More than one death in a batch of chicks normally points to coccidiosis Are they on medicated chick crumb? If not I'd get them some as a precaution or get hold of some Coxoid for their water - it wont do them any harm and will save some if that is what has caused the deaths. timely treatment is important with cocci Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joza2210 Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Sorry To hear about your chicks But Coxoid does work a treat ... I just put it in there water any way ... Fingers crossed everything is ok now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 no they're on Garvo Alfa chick now. the chick crumb they were on wasn't medicated I've just been to the pidgeon place at Wednesbury and got Coxid and it's in the water now one thing how long do I use it for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 They need to have it in the water for a week Fingers crossed for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roobaloo Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Sorry to hear about this...so sad. What is coccidiosis? Is it very common? I've never heard of medicated chick crumb...where can you get it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Coccidiosis is a disease that is quite common in chicks, it has a few causes, dampness is a major cause, I put all my drinkers on J cloths now and change those regularly as dampness travels in woodshavings, it can be cause by dirty conditions or contact with older hens poo too but sometimes its just one of those things Runny poo, dropped wings, pooey bottoms and general listnessness (is that a word??) are symptoms and blood in the poo is a sign that things are pretty bad Getting medicated chick crumb is not very easy - I get mine from Thornes or from a place in Cambridgeshire You often see it described as ACS - 'chick crumb with ACS' I dont always feed it, I keep it for big batches of chicks just to head off any problems - small batches get plain chick crumb and I keep Coxoid ready for any problems with them I have given Coxoid as a preventative for a week when the chicks are a few days old when I couldnt get medicated crumb Coxoid is well worth having 'in stock' if you are hatching - the effects of cocci are swift and chick losses can be high so time is of the essence when it comes to treatment - a bottle of Coxoid is only about £6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roobaloo Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Thanks so much for that! I tend to get my stuff from Thornes so it's good to know! Where can you get Coxoid from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted July 4, 2010 Author Share Posted July 4, 2010 Thanks so much for that! I tend to get my stuff from Thornes so it's good to know! Where can you get Coxoid from? I got mine from a pidgeon supplies place it's for pidgeons really but you can get it on line Flytes so fancy is one place Wells is an other I might have one more go one of the chipmonk twins was looking a bit sorry for it's self about an hour ago but as improved a bit Runny poo, dropped wings, pooey bottoms and general listnessness (is that a word??) are symptoms and blood in the poo is a sign that things are pretty bad the only symptoms I seen are general listnessness and the first one to go holding it's wings slightly open but as it was a hot day I just put it down to that as a couple of the big girls do it to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 So sorry to hear that SJP Most agricultural suppliers stock medicated chick crumb (and growers pellets), just ask for the stuff with ACS. It tends to be branded by the feed mill so it isn't often available from pet-type outlets. I must admit that I wouldn't use anything but medicated chick crumb because coccidiosis acts so quickly, you have little time to respond. It's a little late for me to be piping up now, but I also use Herban in their drinking water from day 1 as a precaution and, because that belts and braces approach doesn't satisfy my paranoia, I grow oregano specifically for my chicks. There is a very effective cocci vaccine for chicks, but it's not available in small doses and doesn't keep. And finally, Baycox is what a vet would normally prescribe for an outbreak, but most use Coxoid as it's widely available without a prescription (but it isn't licensed for poultry). Nowt's simple is it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted July 6, 2010 Author Share Posted July 6, 2010 Well it looks like the other 3 are going to be allright touch wood the one 'chipmonk' seems to have perked up part of the proplem with that one is I don't think it's related to the other one as it's stance is totaly differant and it's neck is shorter making it look sad also thet have lost a lot of the fuff so look thiner than the TNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjp Posted July 11, 2010 Author Share Posted July 11, 2010 one week on and the 3 remaining chicks are fine and healthy they've been on coxoid since last sunday on the full dose do I stop now or put the on the half strength dose as per the instructions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 stop now but go back in with the half dose if required in the near future Glad they are all ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
