quickcluck Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Does anyone know if they do the same sort of thing? Or have any advice on how to administer them? It's a last ditched attempt for the baldness of my girls.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Blimey, I think you and I have tried everything over the last few months to get our girls some feathers back! Firstly neither product is licenced for poultry in the uk The spray is apparently very good but it may be a bit hit and miss so some areas may get missed espcially if you need to get under the feathers - personally I turned my chickens upside down to spray them but they didnt like it! Xeno 200 gets in to their bloodstream so I believe it would be more reliable, it works for 6 weeks. I got my Xeno via Amazon for about £20 inc P&P You use 1 spray (pump spray) for each 200g body weight and I sprayed half the sprays on the skin under the wing and half the sprays on the skin at the back of the neck as someone else recommended. You need to get it on the skin rather than the feathers If you don't get Xeno 200 but get another type of Invermectin the dose is different In conjunction to the Xeno I am now feeding them the ex batt pellets to see if that will get them feathered up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickcluck Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share Posted May 11, 2009 I tell you Red, it's not for the want of trying is it!! We could write a book I am sure. Short of getting an expensive chook expert in i've no idea what to do next! I too am on ex batt food just getting to the end of my first sack! Xeno 200 it is! am not looking forward to weighing the chooks or turning them upside down Weve also put extra roosting bars in the cube after reading an article in about hot hens = no feathers!!! It's such a shame we aren't nearer to each other! Do your girls have feathers yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted May 11, 2009 Share Posted May 11, 2009 Two are better than the other two but they all have fuzzy feathers so I thought maybe deplumping mite?? I know I have a feather pecking problem (well not ME obviously) but I don't think thats quite the answer You don't need to turn them upside down for the Xeno We will get there in the end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 It depends on whether your girls have lice or mites; lice are small and medium brown in colour, a bit like headlice. Northern Fowl Mite (NFM) also live on the bird but are grey and smaller, there are a lot of NFM about at the moment. Xeno will kill lice and works as a preventative, but the anti-mite spray has a different active ingredient and will kill mites like NFM. As you know, neither are licenced for use on poultry in the UK I recently went to help a friend whose chooks had a bad infestation of NFM; we bathed each chook (best done on a warm day) in a 10% solution of Poultry Shield and dried them off with an old towel. We then spotted each bird with Xeno200 and then sprayed them with the Johnsons spray. If the infestation is bad, you will need to repeat the procedure a week later to break the breeding cycle. remember that you are advised to withdraw the eggs from human consumption for 7 days from teratment. This is pretty unpleasant to do as the NFM can crawl up your arms so all your clothing will need washing immediately and you'll need a good hot shower yourself. Pyrethrum or permethrin are the only things that will effectively kill off NFM or red mites (latter only live on the housing). It has been mentioned in a paper I read that you can use ant powder, which contains permethrin but is far cheaper then chicken powders with the same ingredient. You would still need to observe egg withdrawal and it's not licenced for use on poultry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickcluck Posted May 12, 2009 Author Share Posted May 12, 2009 Thanks Claret! I am pleased to say that I can't see any little critters.... this is still in my attempt to get feathers on my chooks!!!! I didn't know if it was likely I have a depluming mite problem........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggerlady Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Claret.can you use ant powder to poof into the crevices of a wooden ark as preventative please if its cheaper than redmite powder? Thanks.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Claret.can you use ant powder to poof into the crevices of a wooden ark as preventative please if its cheaper than redmite powder? Thanks.. I read that you can use it in the housing and the dustbath. This is only what I have read - I haven't had occasion to try it here yet. You would need to observe egg withdrawal recommendation if you use it on the birds, but I'm not sure whether that still applies if you use it in the house. I would guess so though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiggerlady Posted May 12, 2009 Share Posted May 12, 2009 Would that be 7 days egg withdrawal from application and would it be safe to feed the eggs to the dogs? Could help with fleas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
