counturchickens Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Ainsley was clearly unwell today, after an examining her crop she expelled some brown fluid. Looked up Christians advice on the FAQ for sour crop and massaged her crop with her head down and a lot of fluid was expelled. (wish we'd done this outside rather than in the kitchen ) Anyhow, she has picked up, and eaten a small amount of mash and natural yoghurt. She's currently in a cardboard box in the house with water. Should we put her back with the other girls, or keep her in overnight? They hadn't been picking on her so not worried about that, just not sure if she's better in the warm so we can monitor her or better in her own surroundings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 it;s a bit late now but I would have kept her in incase she needed emptying again, but you can only do what you judge best at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counturchickens Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Thanks sandy. Put her in the cube last night, but whipped her out first thing, her crop did need emptying again. What should we do next? Have some natural yoghurt and bokashi bran should we give this another go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Personally i would empty. And let her eat yoghurt. She msy want to drink lots so either add an oregano addktive if you have or can get or apple cider vinegar animal type from horsey place. If you can get to a chemist some oral daktarin. I have read that someone used canestan pill. Cannot recall. Half or quater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counturchickens Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 Thanks, going to get some acv and try that today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uma Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I would get her to the vet for some nystatin as its seems to be the best thing for hens. However it might be worth getting the vet to drain her via tube and showing you how as its less traumatic to the hen and less risk of inhaling the fluid. Also if there is a blockage then sometimes it can get it out too. Is she passing poos? Often with sour crop there is a blockage further down and some liquid parafen can help in some porridge. I would stay on wet foods for a while with her-whiz some boiled eggs in a mixer for protein etc. Uma x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 hi sorry for stilted reply via my silly phone. Absoloutly agree that Nystatin is fab but tis Sunday and I was trying to suggest things that could be achieved today. So yes, is there any solid poo getting through? Sour crop is most often secondary to something else, like a lash on way or stuck, egg bound, an infection, or another blockage, so is hard really. The best you can hope to do is keep it from being sour whilst sorting out whatever else it is, and this will need a good vet both to diagnose, and treat. many people have treated sour crop with the other methods and I think their is a section in health care detailing this. Oral antibiotics can also cause sour crop. I add probiotics to the yoghurt as this helps too. If it is sour due to a blockaged then IF she will eat maggots are helpful in separating a blockage and some same eating the goop that is sour, though I am not convinced at that... (but still try) I have found that Nystain IS the best and works fairly fast but dosing is again one of those controvercial issues with recommendations stating at 1ml x 2 daily to 3x daily to 3mls 3x dail to 5ml 3 x dailyy (all dofferent veterinary recomendations. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counturchickens Posted April 29, 2012 Author Share Posted April 29, 2012 There is some solid poo coming through, black with some white. May try the vets tomorrow, i just don't have a good one locally, or not that I have found yet. Thanks for the suggestions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 I have heard of people getting a Difflucan pill** from the chemist (for thrush), dissolving it in water and giving about a 10th of the pill once or twice a day. I heard the improvement was pretty rapid (1-2 days). **Not licensed for poultry in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 No recommended vets on forum list in your area? Good that something is coming through. Diflucan same as Canestan!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 just a note from me to share our experience: you can get fluid filled crops that are not sour. I have a chook who is regularly blocked and needs to be emptied but it's never been sour so Nystatin wouldn't have achieved anything. If it smells sour then it's probably sour crop, caused by something else. If it doesn't smell, or just smells like pellets would if sloshing around a chicken's crop, then it's not sour crop but possibly caused by a blockage in the crop (which is what my girl regularly suffers from) or further down in the gizzard, for example. I've never taken this chook to the vet, but treated her myself. I have used some liquid paraffin (you can also use olive oil or something similar) on occasion after I've emptied her to get some blockage shifting downwards. I've also been able to get some of the blockages up and out of her mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egghead68 Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 Oh yes difflucan and canestan are both Fluconazole (canestan used to be something different). I think the own-brand fluconazole is a lot cheaper than either (around £10 a pill). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted April 29, 2012 Share Posted April 29, 2012 youch think they are cheaper on t'inernet! no.... think you can get the duo pack for £7 I think in boots........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counturchickens Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 After looking very for herself yesterday, her crop was completely empty this morning. The first time we emptied her lots of lumps came out, the 2nd and 3rd time it was just liquid. Was smelly though, so definitely sour crop. It hadn't filled up again this morning, so could we have cleared the blockage? Luckily my Hubbie is working from home today so he can keep an eye on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Great news. Fingers crossed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counturchickens Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share Posted April 30, 2012 Well she's been out with her pals all day and eating. Tbh I suspect there might be an underlying problem as she stopped laying a while ago, and we have had her a year, so she is doing ok for an ex batt. I will keep checking her crop in the mornings and we will see how she goes. Thanks for all the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linda Townsend Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 What do you mean by emptying your hen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat tails Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 On 1/15/2022 at 1:59 AM, Linda Townsend said: What do you mean by emptying your hen? You tip the chicken forward and try and empty the crop. It can be very full with sour liquid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
