Guest Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 there has been small pink lumps of what looked like a dried up lump of chewing gum/small pink erasery type thing every so often in the poo tray (best way to describe it really!). I didn't worry too much as I'd read they shed bits of stomach lining every so often. Maud was in the nest box today, she hasn't laid for ages but when DH checked the nest box later, there was a larger lump of the same stuff. We took it to the vets, as one of our other girls had a check-up booked anyway, and we asked her what it was. She pulled it apart and it was pinky/purple inside and looked nothing like an egg at all but the vet said it was an unformed egg! She said it was just a lump of protein that should have been an egg but wasn't. So, just thought I'd share that with you in case you get anything like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 how weird, I've never seen anything like that before. At least I'll know what it is when I see it now. Ta. x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I have posted some photos of here http://club.omlet.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38734of what is refered to as a lash. there are more photos in the ref section. I have had possible 3 sorts. on 2 occasions huge like 2 egg size and recently in 2 in 2 pieces as the photos show. this texture and make up of this disected piece is very difernt from another 2 that could best described as fleshy meat quite beef like in texture. some say stomach lining shedded, some say egg laying tackle cleaned. I am still on search for anything recorded sort of officially. seems so far that Omleteers have the most info on them. My vet could find nothing in his journals either? oh and theer is the sort after a softee: with no shell, the shell gets expelled much later up to 12 hours sometimes more, in another what I desicibe as lump of chewwing gum, It is just shell damp & compresed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 this was definitely not damp/compressed shell as I've seen that before. I should have taken a photo but never mind. If we get another one, I'll take a piccie, or get DH to do it. When the vet was dissecting it, it sort of came away in layers, like an onion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 When the vet was dissecting it, it sort of came away in layers, like an onion ooo errr getting weirder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 no this one was more the texture of REALLY hard boiled egg, with dif sort parts to it like in a black pudding sort of way. the other like beef. no onions this is weird isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 I am SO pleased you posted that, Poet .... I know exactly what you mean as Tiki (ex-batt) has been producing the same things you describe for a few weeks now. They made me but my hubbie was rather interested in poking and prodding and we had no idea what they were. I guess Maud isn't laying at the mo then? Tiki isn't. Anyhow, not sure if it's related but Tiki is a bit under the weather now ... very runny bottom (creamy yellow poo) and she's also lethargic . Hoping she bucks up with lots of TLC. Thanks for the info - it makes us feel more "normal" when we thought we were the only ones with these little brown aliens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Baggins, keep an eye on her as she might have peritonitis and if you get her to the vets early enough and on baytril, she should be right as rain. Don't leave it too long though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 this was definitely not damp/compressed shell as I've seen that before. I should have taken a photo but never mind. If we get another one, I'll take a piccie, or get DH to do it. When the vet was dissecting it, it sort of came away in layers, like an onion I know what you mean Poet i have found a couple of them in the droppings tray, I think it is Bunty who has been laying them because she is about to come back into lay again after a long winter break. I pulled one apart myself and they are very strange, like a funny shaped bouncy ball.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 .... I pulled one apart myself ... that was brave! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 Anyhow, not sure if it's related but Tiki is a bit under the weather now ... very runny bottom (creamy yellow poo) and she's also lethargic . Hoping she bucks up with lots of TLC. Sounds like she has a dodgy bottom (not peritonitis) Get her on the exclusion diet; no treats or anything else, just pellets, Avipro & ACV in the water, porridge made of Bokashi Bran and yoghurt. See how she goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted February 7, 2009 Share Posted February 7, 2009 More info re 'lashes' **here**. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Hi Egluntine, Thanks so much for the advice - I hope that's all it is. She isn't preening either which concerns me as she's such an active girl normally. I've given her back end a wash today and she sort of looked but not much else. Anyhow, she's just had some bokashi and yogurt. Sorry if I'm being dim but I haven't heard of Avipro or ACV - can you enlighten me, please? Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Avipro is a water-soluble probiotic powder that contains lots of vitamins and minerals - a sort of health drink for animals. ACV is Apple Cider Vinegar - get the 'live' one from a horse feed supplier rather than the pasteurised one from the supermarket. i hope that she gets better soon, but if she isn'g improving after the exclusion diet and worming, then take her to the vet with a fecal sample in a little pot for them to analyse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I can really vouch for Avipro - its a great "pick me up" we have been giving it to our post-op hen and I really think it has helped her in the recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 I use it on all the animals when needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 Anyhow, not sure if it's related but Tiki is a bit under the weather now ... very runny bottom (creamy yellow poo) and she's also lethargic . Hoping she bucks up with lots of TLC. Sounds like she has a dodgy bottom (not peritonitis) Get her on the exclusion diet; no treats or anything else, just pellets, Avipro & ACV in the water, porridge made of Bokashi Bran and yoghurt. See how she goes. Interesting, My ones the same. I am trying to start the day with a little bokashi. This morning after my last girls problems I checed her crop. Not large but not empty. Have given 2 doses of daktarin, put ACV in all accessible water(not snow though or puddles!) and trtuying to keep good eye on her incase we need to whizz to the vet. She is preening though. Is somewhat picky about her food, in fact much as Moe was when her crop went sour. Fingers crossed for them both. Claret should the bokashi be soaked then? (as you mention porridge?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I usually mix it up with some live yoghurt Sandy - seems to work if they have squitty bums. When you think of it, chickens eat the most dire rubbish - it's no wonder that they get dodgy tums every now and then. Lots of things will help with it: Live yoghurt Bokashi Bran ACV Citricidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 ok ta, but this one's not had any rubbish, as she is off her food. just pm'd you. 10 months since release. hope it's not "that" time yet for her. course could be simply a softee. she may start layin again. Trouble when all symptoms look the same. (Apart from a not empty but not full crop!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...