pencilbeckett Posted February 17, 2009 Author Share Posted February 17, 2009 http://www.poultry.allotment.org.uk/poultry-suppliers/breeder.php?no=182 He has no got his owm website but this is how i found him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitehouse Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Hi Jenni, Just letting you know I've put feelers out but no feedback yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewhitehouse Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Hi again, one contact has been there and was not concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 hi im the guy listed above rspca did come unanounced found no faults as such came another 3 times to check on me i wasnt worried nothing to hide rspca reg /defra reg so have keep up routine cleaning every two days my birds were well looked after well fed feed bills alone cost £60 week plus vitamins all out of own pocket no donations birds cost me to buy plus fuel to collect plus feed one month so where am i proffitering but what the hec birds future is priority not money sorry to sound mad but was to be rspca inspected but told them to viit as when they like nothing to hide 230 birds rehomed two months no casualtys i recon thats good going for a idot who likes rehoming ex batts who else whould and lose money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livvyshens Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Did you mind them coming round, Steve? I find it quite comforting that they checkup. As I said I got a visit once and I did think what a cheek, but the guy was really nice and he just seemed to find the melee of animals and pets funny. We had a jack russell at the time who was totally besotted by him - leaping up and down on the sofa trying to lick him. Your place sounds fun but, as you say, pretty expensive to keep running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1971 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 hi all. this is my 1st post and im angry i have had 4 ex batts from steve myself to run with my own 3 hens (7 in total now) imho he is a genuine bloke who is collecting/treating/feeding/re-homing birds that would otherwise have what life? and then gets shot down on a public forum and grassed to the rspca by the likes of "pencilbeckett" who knows nothing about him.. at least the rspca know he is genuine now so he can carry on the good work RANT OVER lol hi all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 this has already been discussed in this thread viewtopic.php?f=5&t=39966 The person concerned didn't make the phone call lightly as can be seen from the comments in this thread. I probably would have done the same if I had similar concerns. If the chicken purveyor in question is looking after their stock then they have nothing to be worried about! Accusing someone of "grassing" is out of order. If I suspected animals might be being exploited for profit or mistreated in any way, I'm not sure I'd want to visit the premises, I'd rather let trained inspectors to do it. "Ooops, word censored!"ody is "shooting him down" and pencilbeckett shouldn't be made to feel guilty for what they did, I would have done the same if I'd felt there was something not quite right. They did what they did out of concern not to be malicious so I support their intentions. I also think what Steve does is wonderful and it's been very heartening to find out about his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom123 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 this has already been discussed in this thread viewtopic.php?f=5&t=39966 The person concerned didn't make the phone call lightly as can be seen from the comments in this thread. I probably would have done the same if I had similar concerns. If the chicken purveyor in question is looking after their stock then they have nothing to be worried about! Accusing someone of "grassing" is out of order. If I suspected animals might be being exploited for profit or mistreated in any way, I'm not sure I'd want to visit the premises, I'd rather let trained inspectors to do it. "Ooops, word censored!"ody is "shooting him down" and pencilbeckett shouldn't be made to feel guilty for what they did, I would have done the same if I'd felt there was something not quite right. They did what they did out of concern not to be malicious so I support their intentions. I also think what Steve does is wonderful and it's been very heartening to find out about his work. I toatally agree with poet, pencilbeckett did what she thought was right in contacting the RSPCA as she suspected that the animals were not being treated very well, she was obviously wrong but at least we all now know that the owner of the farm is genuine and cares about the animals and isn't just doing it for money. I would of done exactly the same thing. I don't think that anybody should be calling anyone a grass as all she was doing was checking him out not getting him in trouble, if there was something bad going on then he would of been prosecuted but there wasn't and everything is fine. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1971 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 sorry but thats the way i talk! om from the blak "Ooops, word censored!"ree an i do tork propa lol thats just the way i say words. "grassing and shooting down" its the way i use my words wich is what started this in the 1st place IE what someone said on a phone? anyway i was just defending steve wich i still would, as i have dealt with him personally! im thick skinned or just thick? cant remember! so i would not get upset by name calling etc but otheres may.. maybe the mods can delete the thread? wich would stop people like me and others giving there 2 pennies worth i didnt see the above thread. i was on another forum and a link sent me here! oh well ill get me coat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAB Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 who knows nothing about him.. at least the rspca know he is genuine now so he can carry on the good work Mark - the section I have quoted from you is very important - unlike you, none of us knew Steve or his work. In his case he is genuine and we now all know that due to RSPCA visit, but what if people didn't raise concerns simply because they did not know someone...? It is great that you wish to support Steve, but he does not need you to speak negatively of another person in order to "clear his name" - the RSPCA visit and the work he does has done that for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 No need to delete it Mark - you've come on here to defend someone you've met personally and that is fine. As Poet said, the decision to make the phone call wasn't taken lightly but it was the right decision given the circumstances. You've explained why you said what you did - Steve has been and explained why he does what he does and all has been taken in good part. Welcome to the forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 hi chicken steve here i am reg with rspca /defra reg if someone wants my no okay rspca did come cheq me out but found me doing what i should came three times checkt real gestapo type but to his avail found nothing he could realy complain about but if he did i could be shut down all girls slauterd for what sombody thought i was dogy peaple should think before they act come and see me what i do i dont proffiter in any way do peaple know how much it costs to feed birds i dont think they do if they did tey would know how much to feed 90 birds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom123 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I have not phoned the RSPCA today. My worries were that this man is rescueing hens and i am worried that if i call the RSPCA and he gets shut down then these hens will be sentenced to death anyway. I am now at a loss as to what to do. He said he is registered with the RSPCA so i wouldnt think if it all checked out he would lose his livelihood, it would only be if they found signs of cruelty surely, and if this was the case he would deserve to lose his livelihood anyway. How was she to know that you weren't genuine? you could of been just doing it for the money and being cruel? she wanted to make sure everything was OK and she is right in saying ...and if this was the case he would deserve to lose his livelihood anyway... Which is true. So I don't think she did anything wrong but she was just worried about the birds welfare. I really do not think that you should be telling her to think before she acts, if you read back through the thread you will see that she spent along time thinking it over and only rang the RSPCA just to make sure that you were genuine. Please don't come on here telling everyone that she did something wrong because she didn't, we all would of done the same thing and I am sure that you would of too. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westleigh Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I have not phoned the RSPCA today. My worries were that this man is rescueing hens and i am worried that if i call the RSPCA and he gets shut down then these hens will be sentenced to death anyway. I am now at a loss as to what to do. He said he is registered with the RSPCA so i wouldnt think if it all checked out he would lose his livelihood, it would only be if they found signs of cruelty surely, and if this was the case he would deserve to lose his livelihood anyway. How was she to know that you weren't genuine? you could of been just doing it for the money and being cruel? she wanted to make sure everything was OK and she is right in saying ...and if this was the case he would deserve to lose his livelihood anyway... Which is true. So I don't think she did anything wrong but she was just worried about the birds welfare. I really do not think that you should be telling her to think before she acts, if you read back through the thread you will see that she spent along time thinking it over and only rang the RSPCA just to make sure that you were genuine. Please don't come on here telling everyone that she did something wrong because she didn't, we all would of done the same thing and I am sure that you would of too. Tom i have to say that i agree with tom,thats what the RSPCA is there for weather justified or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 3 D's Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I have to say, i agree with Tom aswell. She was only doing it for the welfare of the animals, as all of us care so much about them, we dont want to see anything bad happen to them. She thought along time about phoning the RSCPA so i dont think she rushed into phoning them, like you said. If that was me, i would have done the same. At least now, we all know that you treat your animals very well. Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffyknickers Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I would do the exact same thing and phone the RSPCA if I wasn't sure. I am glad they found everything was just as it should be and I praise all the good work. We should think how wonderful it is that all these chickens are being well looked after AND what a great job the RSPCA are doing and they actually act on phonecalls and information. Personally, if anyone called the RSPCA to me as they were not sure how I was looking after my animals I would welcome them in and show them how well they are looked after and ask them to report back to the CARING person who called them. I am glad there are people out there who care about animal welfare - Steve does a super job but I am sure there are MANY out there who dont and without these checks they wouldnt be found. Must be a shock to have the RSPCA at your door but then very satisfying to show them round knowing how well they are all kept. Perhaps this should just have a line drawn under it now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1971 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 the way i see it.. she called rspca because she thought he sounded funny on a PHONE! HOW CAN YOU JUDGE SOMEONE LIKE THAT? dont get me wrong! if there was cruelty to animals then yes. BUT with evidence! she could of made a visit but NO.. if i see my neighbours having a few visitors i dont call the police to say theres sommat going on.. knock the door in???? it should not of been talked about on a public forum.. just think if steve said stuff it now i dont neeed the hassle? what happens to the birds then hey? i think its the impression it gives on other people! example: i heard the rspca raided him and there keeping a watch on him?? how would you think about him just from that said to you if you were looking for hens?? would you trade with him then? as said above..there should be a line drawn! we can go on for ages like this! i know i can.. by the way.. thanks for the welcome pmsl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 ...Perhaps this should just have a line drawn under it now? hear hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One_Box Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 Yes indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted March 1, 2009 Share Posted March 1, 2009 I agree - enough has been said now, I'll lock this so that we can all get on with looking after our wonderful hens in this beautiful weather......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
