A question for the master builder - Redwing? or ....

[Plum]

A question for the master builder ? I went to Wickes today to get woodscrews for my itsy bitsy chicken run what type do I get there was chrome, brass, steel, easydrive?

 

I asked two couples buying lots of building stuff and they hadn't a clue.

 

Thanks

[Redwing]

ooooh I just bought some from Wickes today but they are up at the field.... the label was brown though and said suitable for wood, the brown label ones are really easy to drive in and rarely split the wood (different ones have diff colour labels)

 

I love Wickes screws as the bigger packets come wiith the correct size drill bit for your leccy screwdriver and takes all the nonsense out of trying to figure it out for yourself

[Plum]

Cheers its brown label then. I can cope with that type of technology.

[Plum]

So when making a panel how many screws at each joint - 2? Thanks

 

Perhaps I should go to a woodwork class

[Falkor]

I am sure that ASTW had some close up pics of his A4U run and it was two screws in each joint

[atsw]

I am sure that ASTW had some close up pics of his A4U run and it was two screws in each joint

Yes, he certainly does ** see here **.

 

The A4U panels are made with 38mm x 50mm pre-treated wood. Each panel is held to its neighbour by three 75mm screws on each side (just to be clear, six hold each vertical in place, two from each side). There's other links on the page I've listed, but if you have any other questions, please just ask.

 

Andrew

 

EDIT: Been out to physically check on the number of screws, it's three down each side, six altogether, text above has been corrected.

Edited September 28, 2009 by Guest

[Plum]

That's great. Enough now to cope with anything Thanks for advice and I'll probably be back or failing that the bits of wood will be in the post to one of you.

[kevtheplumber]

You want stainless steel or zinc yellow passivated ideally, I have loads but I buy them for work, check out screwfix for more info, when securing anything it depends on the weight and span ratio to how many screws you will need, ie a legnth of 2x1 wood at 1m long fir a perch you will get away with 1 fixing each end, thicker wood ie3x2 I'd put 2 each end just for stability as the wood can roll slightly when pressure is applied, hope that helps

[Falkor]

Kev.....don`t be getting all technical on us!!!

 

Span ratio!!!????

 

 

Watch out ladies the boys are here and they seem to know what they are talking about!

[kevtheplumber]

From what I've read on here it looks like we have come at just the right time

[Falkor]

From what I've read on here it looks like we have come at just the right time

 

 

Now that there be fighting talk!

 

Bang a nail in there and just there.....works for me every time

[Plum]

Now then I am grateful for technicalities or tips.

I got screws with brown label and screwer bit inside that fits my screwdriver they are easyuse or something single thread with pointy bit at end and the nice lady at the counter said they are fine for outside.

 

May put an extra nail or two in to make me feel better. Right back to my planning.

[Falkor]

Now then I am grateful for technicalities or tips.

I got screws with brown label and screwer bit inside that fits my screwdriver they are easyuse or something single thread with pointy bit at end and the nice lady at the counter said they are fine for outside.

 

May put an extra nail or two in to make me feel better. Right back to my planning.

 

When can we expect the technical drawings Plum?

[Plum]

You may get a photo of a pile of wood and a packet of screws and an interesting slope I have to make them fit.

[Plum]

Technical drawing you want, technical drawing you have. As technical as I go anyway

 

[kevtheplumber]

what scale is that drawing in?

[Redwing]

Girl scale Kev

 

No more tricky questions now lest you dampen the artistic flair

[Plum]

[cockadoodle1]

Dont forget to pre drill the hole to stop the wood splitting Use a drill size slightly smaller than the screw size

[Plum]

Getting complicated I was hoping it would just go in. Do I drill the first bit of wood or both?

Thanks

[kevtheplumber]

usually just the first, I didnt need to pre drill any of my wir as I used screws that dont need pre driling

[Plum]

Ok thanks, I had a look at those screws but they didn't appear to be for outside and they were quite pricey.

[Plum]

Changed my plans a bit, I am going to make a wonky base with the pallet wood so that I can screw the straight 90 deg run on top. Reason being I can then use it elsewhere and I can fill the base partly with soil so that most of it is flat.

 

My OH said I was cruel making them live on the slope even though I said I would get Welsh mountain chickens with one leg shorter than the other. He also sent me some Escher art to help me with the project.

[Plum]

Another change of plan found a flat bit of ground, well actually the paving slabs next to the cube run and I've put down another row of broken slabs for me for the winter.

 

I've started the big build and thanks for advice the screws are going in fine. I find the weldmesh hard to work with and have had to recut one bit.

 

Ive given up on rulers and metal tapes for measuring the wood and am using my patchwork rulers. Far superior and more accurate. Haven't got a saw so am using a hacksaw but doing ok with it. Might get a new blade out of my car, I keep them there for adjusting walking sticks.

 

It doesn't bare close scrutiny but I'm doing ok so far.

[sjp]

Another change of plan found a flat bit of ground, well actually the paving slabs next to the cube run and I've put down another row of broken slabs for me for the winter.

 

I've started the big build and thanks for advice the screws are going in fine. I find the weldmesh hard to work with and have had to recut one bit.

 

Ive given up on rulers and metal tapes for measuring the wood and am using my patchwork rulers. Far superior and more accurate. Haven't got a saw so am using a hacksaw but doing ok with it. Might get a new blade out of my car, I keep them there for adjusting walking sticks.

 

It doesn't bare close scrutiny but I'm doing ok so far.

a pair of nail pinchers or side cutters like sparkys use or the best for weld mesh quicker to