Ms Tilytinkle Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Hello All, Before we go ahead with any purchase, after reading online reviews, I decided the best place to check for any truthful information & experience is of course .. . OMLET FORUM Soooo, in usual request please please please do anyone have any experience, wisdom re these elecrtic wires which are buried beneath the ground which train the dogs to keep away from crossing the boundary. We have two gorgeous pups, they are sooo adorable, very well behaved & a joy. We both 'work' from home & it seemed perfect timing. However, theyre just sooo friendly everytime the postman or anyone walks past & they hear the gravel one of them legs it thru & has been carried back by the postman twice, a neighbour twice & a stranger once. As much as we try to teach her, NO & call her back & try to train her - she's deaf when it comes to the opportunity of a cuddle !!! (she's also a nightmare with cyclists & joggers whom she just disappears with) Yes we go to training class - but - its early days We've only had her 4 weeks, bless & she is responding very well to all training . . er except the afore 3 mentioned. Obviously this isnt good & we want to keep her safely in the garden whilst training etc Has anyone used these electric wires, first I think there's a noise warning then the shock. It sounds sooo awful but I really dont want to risk her being hurt or causing an accident or getting lost (worse into the wrong cruel hands) etc We've only 2 chooks left now, so once we get over the winter I think we'll maybe have more as we haven't seen the fox since we've have the little terriers. Many Many Thanks MsTilyschookseattheborderpupsdinnerMsTIlyschooksstillruletheroostofallanimals!! MsTilywishesyouabeautifulAutumnalday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 It is an extremely contraversial topic I am afraid. I do know of 2 people who use the 'Freedom Fence' I is in France. They used the fence in order to prevent their large GSD from crossing the threshold. The dog quickly learned not to cross and they have had the fence turned off for years now. The dog believes that it is turned on and will not cross. The other person lives on a farm and it is not practical to fence the boundaries. Both dogs had wandered and disappeared hunting. With sheep nearby they felt that it was their only option. My feeling are that they should not be used as a replacement for training or securing a boundary that can be fenced. I can understand how they can be the difference between a dog getting run over, worrying sheep or being 'dangerously out of control'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Tilytinkle Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 Hello there Thank you for the information. Much appreciated, we also feel quite a dilemma as it isnt natural to want to hurt anything in life, let alone your own pets. We've read there are 5 settings, we also read within a couple of weeks the aversion therapy has worked & can switch the wire off. We live on an unadopted track, which leads into a village & onto a large main crossroad. Our garden boundary which we want to wire leads onto a slope which descends onto a very busy dual carriage way. Although we doubt the dogs would wander that way, we cant be sure & wont take the risk. Fencing will be difficult due to the land although we could i guess create a false boundary but pruning hedges & trees etc would be difficult . . as you can tell we're totally unsure as best way to protect the dogs from inadvertent harm due to their very curious nature. We have a large garden, they have plenty of room but its just their nature to flee after the scent of man or other !! We are training them & they are responding sooo well but its my peace of mind so they can enjoy being in the garden without the fear of them running off. We've read its just like when we touch an escalator, short & sharp. Thank you soo much. MsTilyhopeseveryonehasawonderfulharvestfeelingofappreciationforallthingsnatural&prolific Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Out of interest what breed of dog are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Tilytinkle Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 hello CM They're little Border terriers, not sure how to put photies on here, although not because you wont know what Border Terriers are but because theyre soooooo lovely Thanks again MsTilyspupscats&chickensallfreerangetogether chooksstillruletheroostthencats&lastlypups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken shack Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I live on a main road and along with my neighbours had lost young cats to the road. I purchased a freedom fence when I rehomed 2 youg kittens and found it brilliant. Although I only let them out in the garden when I was home in case they got chased by other animals such as foxes and become trapped because of the fence. It worked very well for my 2 rescue cats. My neighbour who also rescues cats lost 1 of hers while mine were safe. Mine are older now and never go over the garden wall so I hardly ever sue it any more but would if I got another kitten. A freind of my sisters has a lot of land and she found it difficult to stop her dogs from escaping other than shutting them in a small enclosure, she had the freedom fence installed and the dogs no longer escape and have acres to roam in. Wales have banned it's use but used as it is ment to be used and I think they save animal lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Tilytinkle Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 Hello CS Thank you for your reply, we don't intend to use it for any longer than absolutely necessary. Just to train them, stop them from legging it at any opportunity when they hear voices. They think everyone is their friend!!! We were lucky our postman brought her home, she's like a little whippet her back legs are in front of her front ones ha ha. They're fine when we're out walking, they run & play by our side but follow us without hesitation & come back to us at every recall (except if theres a jogger or cyclist) even though they dont stray very far from our legs. Its at home where they just seem so excitable & lethal. Even though we're both home, when working I'd still like them to enjoy the outdoors as they play so well together, we've built them a little agility play area & they do play on it but hear a voice & one of them in particular is off. This morning, they dug underneath the fence & trotted over next doors lawn, they cam immediately back - now I was in the garden with them - filling the chickens water!!! So they did this in a couple of seconds!! Many Thanks MsTilythoughtchooks&catswereagreatexcusefornohouseworkEeeeekitsnowpups!Ooohdear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted October 17, 2010 Share Posted October 17, 2010 We have a Petsafe Freedom Fence for our two rescue cats. It is brilliant. The cats are safe within our odd-shaped grounds and we know where they are. They are kept away from the road, and other dangers. They don't stray or disappear - as cats do. They don't mess in other peoples' gardens, causing trouble. Our cats had a horrible start in life and deserve the best. We trained the cats so that when they heard the warning beep beep beep to turn back into the garden. Initially they had to feel the static shock a few times to be contained by the system, but how much better in the long run for them than being hit by a vehicle and dying? They learnt the system quickly and now they know to the inch how far they can patrol. The birds seem to know where they are safe too. We recommend it to anyone who wants their pets to be able to play in the garden and not be imprisioned in their house, as many cats are. It doesn't work like an electric fence for cattle or horses - the cats do have a warning beep beep beep before they enter the static shock zone. And it is nowhere like a belt from a livestock fence - even on highest setting. Come to think of it, Omlet sell chicken electric fencing. We are not on commission or work for Petsafe, but if anyone does want to come and see it in action, PM us. It is quite odd for an invisible barrier to work. We have had cats killed on roads, cats disappear for days on end, cats drenched in noxious liquids, etc. Hopefully, this system stops all the worry. Gone on a bit, but we think it's great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted October 18, 2010 Share Posted October 18, 2010 I think that used properly they are good - as you say, far better a couple of warning zaps than what may happen if they venture onto the road. We did consider a freedom fence when we first had Jazz as our drive winds down to a main road. She has never bothered so we didn't get one but Tali is a different matter - she goes conveniently (for her) deaf when she decides she wants to play with the farm cats and she chased one towards the road the other day. We have electric wire around the hens area and both puppies have had to learn the hard way - there is no other way of doing it. It does have an audible sound but the pups have to investigate.......we say 'leave' as they approach it but they still have to test it Both dogs have done it twice, but they don't do it again. They know exactly where it is even in they're play fighting or running after a ball......they won't go within 1 metre of it. The zap from the freedom fence is not as strong as the electric wire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
