The Dogmother Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I have used Panacur (on my vet's advice) before when one of my flock had a nasty case of gape worm, but it was the 10% small animal suspension... a nasty, chalky liquid that had to be shaken up and administered by syringe (the hens hated it!). It also had a very strict egg withdrawal period. I see in this month's Practical Poultry mag that there is now a water-soluble version (Panacur Aquasol), which the article suggests may be used on poultry. On checking the weblink provided, there's only reference to it being licensed for use on pigs; no mention of any use on poultry. Anyone got any background information on this? I very much doubt that they have changed the formulation enough for it to be used without egg withdrawal, and there's no mention of it being passed for use on birds.... Hmmm ETA: Just found this, which would seem to suggest that it has been licensed, but no mention of egg withdrawal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beantree Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 There has been a discussion about this on another forum. Appears it doesn't treat as well as Flubenvet. The advantage is that it can be added to drinking water and, due to finer powder, without the need for frequent agitation. The conclusion was "stay with Flubenvet". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 22, 2014 Author Share Posted June 22, 2014 I have always been told that Panacur is a 'stronger and broader spectrum wormer' than Flubenvet, but it was a devil to administer as the flock hated the taste of it. Luckily the dosing was only for 2 treatments a week apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavclojak Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Does panacur treat tapeworm? I'm sure flubervent doesn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 There is some info here No egg withdrawal. Doesn't treat capillaria. Look at the operator warnings and special precautions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Thanks Eggers. I have emailed them for more information - will report back. I shan't switch, but am interested in what they have to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkysmum Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 Hi I have used panacur in the winter when the hens are off lay. I bring them in individually and give them their dose on little cubes of bread. They gobble it down. no problem at all. not ideal tho if you have more than half a dozen hens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 23, 2014 Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 Here's their response: P anacur AquaSol 200 mg/ml oral suspension is now licenced to be used in Chickens. Indication of use; Treatment of gastro-intestinal nematodes in chickens infected with: - Ascaridia galli (L5 and adult stages) - Heterakis gallinarum (L5 and adult stages). Contra-indications Do not use in case of Capillaria spp infestations. In the absence of available data, treatment of chickens less than 3 weeks of age should be based on a benefit/risk assessment by the responsible veterinarian. Chickens Meat and offal: 6 days. Eggs: zero days. I hope this information is useful, for full details please take a look at the data sheet, see link - http://www.noahcompendium.co.uk/MSD_Animal_Health/documents/S6849.html So, it isn't to be used for Roundworms... Hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beantree Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Correct me if I am wrong Dogmother. Are they saying it doesn't treat the most common worm in chickens? If so, why did they bother licensing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 My thoughts exactly! Methinks they are now trying to get a corner of what is now a big market. They primarily make it for pigs, so they seem to have just added poultry to the license. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 How much does it cost? I can't see any info about this. Probably staring me in the face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 I couldn't either, but as it's only available on vet prescription, I guess it's probably a license for them to print money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 The only advantage that I can see is that it will be easy to get it into free ranging hens. However, as it doesn't treat capillaria, it won't be much use in the long run. I'll stick with Flubenvet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Me too, just done mine and had them in the run for the best part of the 7 days and they were fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...