PixieDust Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 Vet said she was brighter than most chickens he sees. Good weight and size. He says she has IB/Mycoplasma/respitory disease. Her chest and air sac is clear. He said the vaccine companies do not know for sure how long the vaccines offer protection so he said she might have just been unlucky. Vet didn't think the others have a huge issue as he felt I would have seen them far sicker after such close confinement with her for nearly 2 weeks. She had a shot of Tylan and he expects her to have picked up by Monday. She may need a second shot but he hopes she won't need that. If the others do show symptoms he will give me some Tylan powder for the water but he doesn't want to give all of them antibiotics if they don't all need it. Well hopefully this will work. Consult £17.95 and injection free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullethunter Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 Bargain! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted November 28, 2014 Share Posted November 28, 2014 That's good news that you have a diagnosis, and now know what to watch for in the future. They usually pick up after a Tylan injection; I usually go home with a few syringes and a bottle to repeat injections if necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted November 28, 2014 Author Share Posted November 28, 2014 He knows I am a novice owner so I guess in time I may be able to do that. Seems odd, my dog is registered and rarely sees his own vet at one practice and now "Pob" as she is temporarily known on their records, is at another one. He said I need to operate a closed flock, for obvious reasons, but I don't have room for more than 4 anyway. He also said if I did decide to take her back to not take a new one home so that it wasn't in line to catch it and also all the birds were not stressed. I so hope she pulls through and lives a long and trouble free life. From my searching on the net, hundreds of people bring home vaccinated hybrids to find they go sick and need Tylan. In the US they can buy Tylan over the counter and like Dogmother, inject when required. Apparently Tylan destroys chicken muscle cells at point of injection, which is not problem for a back yard egg layer, but destroys a birds "table worthyness" in a commercial sense and is only registered for use in turkeys. I had to sign a form to say I understood the injection was not a licenced medication. Does anyone else have to do that? The other Pobs were very curious as to why she was put in a box and taken away and even more curious when she came back again. She jumped out of the box and started eating and drinking and they all crowded round her like they were asking her what happened The Sussex and the Columbine then had a set to. I think when she recovers her strength, Sick Pob will go back to being no.2 in the pecking order. Yesterday the Sussex, (3rd) and the Columbine, (4th), were pecking her as she was having a sleep. I told them off and said to Bluebell to sort them out and she went and told them off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 sounds like you have them well trained, and a good chicken-savvy vet Tylan isn't licensed for use on food chain critters, so you can't use it on any birds destined for the table, and must withdraw any eggs from human consumption for a week from the last dose (that's my vet's recommendation). Myco/IB are very much like human diseases in that so long as your flock is well kept and not stressed, then they are unlikely to catch it. Be careful to isolate any newbies, and introduce them slowly to avoid any stress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullethunter Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 PixieDust your last post has made me smile because it sounds like you're really being able to enjoy your girls now . Sounds like sick Pob will have to be Pob forever now. I used to have a hamster called that! Hope she's improved again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 No, I already had a name for her. But til I know she has recovered it's Pob. She's too gentile to be a Pob lol. May always be her nickname though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beantree Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Please to hear 'Pob' may be alright after all PixieDust. I had forgotten that some breeders are now giving birds a Mycoplasma strain as well as ILT and IB. It's a relatively new thing and something else to flare up when they are stressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Beantree, she has attempted a dust bath this afternoon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beantree Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Well that says to me she's going to be fine PixieDust. She won't do that if she is ill or stressed. Don't want to worry you unnecessarily, but worth just checking for lice or Northern Fowl Mite if she does it a lot. Occasionally they pick them up but they are very easily treated. We had a minor outbreak in one of our coops this year spotted only by their incessant soil bathing. Having said that I expect the vet checked so you won't need to bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Yes he did check. They all had a little one in the sun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullethunter Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Lovely. Mine get no sun at all at the moment. Can't wait for new house with big South facing garden - barely dare to hope the sale goes through ok! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Ooh where are you moving too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullethunter Posted November 29, 2014 Share Posted November 29, 2014 Just across town to a nicer part of Bodmin. My garden will more than quadruple in size though and face South East rather than North. Very excited Scared though - our first house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted November 29, 2014 Author Share Posted November 29, 2014 Ooooh lovely. I have been to Bodmin. We were on holiday many years ago and I went to a car boot sale in a car park in the town. We will need pictures! We don't have the biggest of gardens, but I guess far bigger than most people. Some of our neighbours have huge gardens and others, like our next door neighbours, have tiny garden you could barely swing a cat in. I came from a flat which had huge private grounds but you had no garden to speak of. This is the first garden I have had and I am so pleased we have the Pobs. Just having to get my dog used to them because the poor soul can't use his garden at the moment. It's not so much the threat to the Pobs, more the screaming with excitement which will naff the neighbours off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 After initial pick up, she was back to being hunched yesterday. Back to vet for second Tylan injection and some Tylan for everyone's water as the rest are sneezing more. She is still hunched today but did get up on the coop roof which she wasn't always doing. Personally, I think we will get to the end of the powder and she won't be any different and I don't hold out great hope for the rest now. I can see we are going to have a mass dispatch and no more chooks til Spring. The rest are very near to lay. Faces going quite red now but her face is white with the tiniest comb. Really not enjoying this at all. And with the horrible, damp weather, I don't see how a respitory infection can easily clear up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beantree Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 i think you are right PixieDust. The weather isn't helping her at all and she must have an inherent immunity weakness that isn't going to clear with more medication. Can't see why you would despatch them all though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I would just despatch the sick hen and keep an eye on the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 Will finish this course of Tylan and see where we are. The weather is horrible today. She was the only one brave enough to eat out of my hand. She is eating well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Do you have any Nutri-Drops that you can get into her? They really help an ailing bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 I have some but having difficulty getting it in her. Could I mix it with something? Yoghurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 You can if you're having trouble syringe feeding her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted December 3, 2014 Author Share Posted December 3, 2014 OK might get some yoghurt later. She's having another dust bath today! It is also not raining either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullethunter Posted December 5, 2014 Share Posted December 5, 2014 How is sick Pob? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixieDust Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share Posted December 8, 2014 Sick Pob is still hanging in there. She is still a little hunched at times but getting more lively and wanting first dibs on the meal worms and scratch. Not wanting the pellets so much. They all adore carrot greens. A couple more days on Tylan and we shall see. She still has a sneeze, shakes her head but I don't think I can do more. She may just be a weaker girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
