The Dogmother Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I'm wondering whether any of you Ebay-ites can help with this, or shed some light. Phil is selling a few items on Ebay (bear with me on this one.....), one item - a stereo - has a reserve of £150, he had an initial bid of £100, then one of £200 (so far, so good). He was then contacted by a potential buyer, who said 'I'll offer you £250 for it and I can collect tomorrow'; Phil declined and said that he wanted to let the auction run. Then Phil received another email from this man saying that 'I know that you (Phil) have 'shilled' (bid on his own item to push the price up) and I am going to report you to Ebay'. Obviously Phil was gobsmacked as it came totally out of the blue, he has contacted Ebay to ask for advice regarding this person. He's also blocked this person (who has a good Ebay record) from making any further bids on this item. Has anyone else experienced anything like this, or can you offer any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lisa33 Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I have not experienced this (yet!!) What a horrible person. I am so going off Ebay at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Sounds like a very pushy numpty to me. If there has been no shilling then Phil has nothing to worry about as reporting someone doesn't mean jack. Ebay would then investigate and if there is no evidence of shilling then there is no problem. Sounds like a very nasty pushy buyer to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Thanks Pengy - it is all very odd and Phil doesn't know what to think as this chap has a good record of feedback otherwise (but then I understand that feedback doesn't count for diddly squat on ebay these days ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Feedback counts for less diddly squat than you would think. Sellers not being able to leave neg feedback is a nightmare. As I said I just got my first neg from a numpty who paid with SOMEONE ELSE's paypal account and had an UNCONFIRMED address. for some tickets worth several hundred pounds. She gets to neg me for cancelling the transaction but I can't neg her for wasting my time AND it cost me the fees as I needed to relist quickly so couldn't persue a claim against her - and anyway she was adamant she had paid (and been refunded) and still wanted the tickets. Also my mate Gary has a very high feedback, cos he buys tons of CD's and promo cards. Recently he got a load of EXTRA feedback from Ebay, bumped him up about 500 apparantly. System is screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 He might have "stolen" the persons ebay id A friend of mine had that done to her She was up to about 500, 100% positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Yes I have heard somewhere, cant reember from right now.. of this happening, where an id is stolen and abuse being sent out in their name. I did have people contacting me once about items I had supposedly placed in 'want it now' I hadn't and some of the replies where quite pushy. I reported it to ebay and since then nothing has come through. Although I was convinced at the time it was because we had signed up for that sniper bay thingy.. since coming off that and changing passwords no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 Now that's a possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 ebay recommend that your password is changed very frequently, I've read it on their website (somehwere) if they thought they were totally secure I am guessing they wouldn't recommend this, although I dont obviously know for sure, am just guessing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallina Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Someone stole my eBay id, and I was told my password was much too weak and very easy to crack. Luckily I noticed that I was allegedly selling mobile phones, and was able to put a stop to it. If you have a seven-letter password with no upper-case, no numbers, and no symbols, change it immediately! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 The trouble is we are all too old to go changing passwords regularly. I have to confess I have 2 main passwords that I use for everything and neither of them is very secure by the current definitions of security. Sometimes you HAVE to have numbers, so I use one of these 2 paswords with a number at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 We have to change everything at work all the time, at one stage all my passwords came up within 2 days of each other and I nearly went spare. I have to admit to having about 10 that I 'cycle' through; they're pretty secure in that they all contain upper and lower case, and numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cate in NZ Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Passwords....they blow my poor, tired little brain I once had one for on here that was brilliant (or so I thought), based on a word that has significance to me, but with numbers and upper and lower case letters. The day after I changed it it took me half a dozen attempts to get it right and log on.....nearly ended up having to email Barbara with a help plea It's the sheer number of passwords to remember that gets to me, that and PIN numbers......I love them too, the number of times I'm there looking at the Eftpos machine and thinking "which number goes with that card"......I swear I look like quite shifty sometimes as I struggle to remember Perhaps I'm getting old and my memory's failing. But, back to the original topic , not a fan here I'm afraid, too many people use it, and as in any large mix some are legal, decent and fabulous traders who are well worth buying or selling with....others, sadly aren't, problem is that it's hard to work out who's who any more. And ebay is toothless when there's a complaint, lots of threats and bluster but no real action. It seems like the ultimate sanction is to suspend membership. Well, just go and re-register again . I'm a bit cynical, couple of minor run ins with them here, but I think ebay are doing very nicely overall and can, to a certain extent disassociate themselves from complaints. Wouldn't touch them with a bargepole myself i have to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogs and chickens Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I used to have a shop on ebay, and I sold a very expensive item to a lady who had a UK address, the item had only sold for £10 when it was worth about £150 Obviously I had sold it so had to go through with the sale. However the women did not pay, I spent ages sending her emails saying please pay for your item etc... Anyway the item was listed as very very heavy so UK postage only, she had a UK address so no problem, but then she asked me if I could send it too Africa somewhere (can't remember exactly). I said no, I would only send it to her registered UK address! She then said I had been shrill bidding on the item and she would report me to ebay , silly women it only sold for £10! Fortunately I had been waiting so long to hear from her by this stage, I was able to leave her a strike for none payment and also bad feedback. I then had an email from ebay about shrill bidding and warning me I was being closely watched for this action . Shortly after I decided it was not worth the hassel to sell on ebay anymore! I'm currently totally unsure of the new ebay rules re feedback but it does seems hugely unfair that sellers can no longer leave negative feedback. From a buyers point of view fab! I have a load of kids toys to sell I have decided to do local paper ad's to save myself from ebay. Good luck with your sale, I hope you get a good price. Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 we're doing a carboot sale soon instead, I cant be bothered with the hassle of ebay anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becka Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Someone stole my identity on Ebay and I could watch the replies to the messages they sent out from my account filtering back to my messaage folder. I was receiving some very funny messages so I contacted Ebay who denied my account had been compromised and suggested I change my password. I ended up phoning them and being directed online to America to sort out the problem with my UK account. The Americans said it had been compromised and wiped the listings and messages but I'm still quite wary of trusting the system after that problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallina Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 You should have a different password for everything. Think what would have happened to me if my PayPal password had been the same as my eBay password. But here is a hint to make life easier. Have just one very simple password that you use for everything that doesn't involve money or security, e.g. this site, Friends Reunited. Then you only have to remember the passwords that matter. And don't do what a friend of mine did: save a file called Passwords on your computer! If remote hackers get into your computer, they could have a field day with that. I am much more cautious than I used to be, because hackers on the other side of the world got into my computer at work, and it started doing things on its own in front of my very eyes. That was really scary, and again, it was caused by the fact that my password to get into the computer was too weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 I used to have a Paypal account, and it was hacked into and frauded by someone in the Philippines! I haven't had one since and just have an ebay account for items that I am watching... which I then ask Phil to get for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
