Janet G Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I've just started using Johnson's Scaly Lotion on my hen that has this, as it was the only treatment I could buy locally. It's sold for caged birds so there's no information for hens. Does anyone know if there's any need to withdraw eggs? It contains pyrethrins (probably safe enough for humans given the tiny dose?) & Piperonyl Butoxide - no idea what this is. The eggs are only for our own use. Thanks, Janet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I would, to be on the safe side as the product is *not licensed for use on poultry in the UK. These products are oftenused by pigeon fanciers and should not be used on birds intended for human consumption, therefore I imagine that the eggs could be contaminated. I would contact the manufacturer for a definitive answer though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoice Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Maybe Omlet already know the anwer as they sell it in their shop here You could email them to find out if they know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If it is sold for use on hens then it needs to be supplied with a disclaimer and instructions on witholding the eggs from human consumption - for the reasons that Egluntine has mentioned. I have used Xeno200 or any other product containing Ivermectin as the active ingredient and also sprayed the legs with Johnson's anti-mite spray *these products are not licenced for use on poultry in the UK* They work well for me. Be aware that the scales will look scabby for some time after the mites have gone and until they are moulted off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Webmuppet Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 It might be worth treating all your chooks as one of mine had scaly leg, which cleared up and now another one has got it so now all of them are getting sprayed with a scaly leg spray that doesn't have an egg withdrawl period (it says on the bottle 'does not taint eggs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 It might be worth treating all your chooks as one of mine had scaly leg, which cleared up and now another one has got it so now all of them are getting sprayed with a scaly leg spray that doesn't have an egg withdrawl period (it says on the bottle 'does not taint eggs). That's interesting MW, what are the active ingredients? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Webmuppet Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Right I have the bottle.............It's made by Barrier Animal Healthcare in Norfolk (500ml spray bottle) states it's suitable for Organic Farming systems .......it says it contains CITRIODIOL contains citrol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Ahhh, I know the one. I'd be interested to hear if it works at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet G Posted March 25, 2009 Author Share Posted March 25, 2009 I'd already e-mailed Johnson's but no reply as yet. I see from another posting that their anti-mite spray is also pyrethrum based, could it be that they're all the same formula? Johnson's advised egg withdrawal for 48 hours for the mite spray so I presume the scaly lotion will be the same. I've ordered some of the Barrier scaly leg spray which I'll use on the others. Thanks for the info on how it will look - I wondered whether I would be able to tell when it had cleared up. Janet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 You will find that the crusting underneath the scales goes and the chooks won't be bothered by the itching. It does take a while for the legs to look anything like normal again. In some cases they are never quite the same. This hen is recovering from a severe case of scaley leg mites and you can see the smoother skin underneath where the old scales have moulted off. It is important not to pick the scales off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet G Posted March 30, 2009 Author Share Posted March 30, 2009 Thank you for the pictures, Claret. It looks exactly like this, but is looking a bit less lumpy after 3 doses of the Scaly Lotion, so it must be working. In case this is helpful, a helpful lady from Johnson's phoned & advised that the lotion bio-degrades entirely in 4 or 5 days, where ever it is, even in an egg. She obviously couldn't say to eat the eggs after this time as it's not licensed for poultry etc, etc, but I could infer that the eggs would be safe. I'm happy with this. Janet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ's Chooks Posted April 20, 2009 Share Posted April 20, 2009 i have a feeling one of our girls may have scaly leg mite.... some scales are lifting. I have used Xeno... about 5 squirts and smothered her legs with vaseline... is that right??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostin Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 i have a feeling one of our girls may have scaly leg mite.... some scales are lifting. I have used Xeno... about 5 squirts and smothered her legs with vaseline... is that right??? The pictures claret has posted up there are of my Lilly's feet . She came to me with really bad scaley leg but it is gradually going now. I gave her 10 squirts of xeno each time, because she is rather a large busty lady , and when I worked out the dosage per kg it came out that way, and it was such a bad case. I don't know how big your chook is though, mine was a light sussex. I never used the vaseline, it went away with just the xeno, but I'm sure the vaseline will be soothing for her, and will suffocate any that are there, leaving the xeno to kill the eggs, and any that hatch later. I gave another dose after a week, and then another dose in a month, and now I just give prophylactic doses to all the girls every 3 months. Sounds like you are doing everything right. I hope I've helped and not just waffled . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 You're spot on Mostin. The only problem with using vaseline or other stuff on the legs to suffocate the mites is that EVERYTHING sticks to it and they get really dirty legs! I'd stick to the Xeno myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ's Chooks Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Thanks guys I have sprayed all the girls with xeno and will again at the weekend. I have been treating them every 3 months with xeno to avoid mites... Can they become immune to xeno being effective? We have had a worms infestation and now mites and potentially scaly leg.... I give them about 6 squirts each. What am I doing wrong for it to be working preventatively??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 21, 2009 Share Posted April 21, 2009 Are you squirting it onto the skin (under the feathers) at the back of the neck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJ's Chooks Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I sure am Clare, Infact i now squirt it in two places and rub so that it doesnt run off... The only thing i can think of is that the bottle i have is out of date at the end of this month, so I'm just trying to get hold of another bottle.... Amazon is the cheapest (vet UK) so far at 18.37 a bottle!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Hmmm, perhaps it's out of date then. I know that the original Ivermectin product that I used was pretty ineffective after it's use by date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
