joegg Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Bellina is bleeding from her vent looks like internal type bleeding she has just laid egg is bloody and vent very bloody. posted a few weeks ago about her odd eggs they just seem to drop out any where and are very wet. vet????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 A little blood goes a long way. Try not to panic. Can you clean her up and assess the situation. I t might be just a small tear which will settle. If, however, it continues to drip from her vent, I would take her to the vet. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegg Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Thanks going to bathe her with salt water now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegg Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Definitely internal bleeding have separated from others for now she had a runny poo blood stained when i was cleaning her vent looks a bit swollen. Chicken haemoroid??? Vent looks like it could have broken blood vessel just inside. Bit worried that this may have been going on a little while we had an egg with a small amount of blood on it last week and thought nothing of it -along with her dropping her eggs around the place and not being aware of laying them they have been very wet and look as if they have been shoddily airbrushed. I think the egg pigment is produced from blood pigments so maybe there is a connection. She was looking a little hunched but seems herself now and just eaten some sweetcorn. Will keep an eye on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 When you say swollen, could it be a slight prolapse? Separating her from the others is an excellent idea, so that her companions don't explore her sore bits with their beaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegg Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Thats what i think if it is it is very slight, what is the best thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 What you are doing essentially. I would keep her on a diet that is not made up entirely of pellets for a day or two, to discourage laying and give her insides a chance to rest. You could also apply some haemorrhoid cream to the protruding vent to shrink it sufficiently that it can be pushed back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Sorry to hijack this post, but I think I have the same problem with one of my bantams. Have just noticed congealed blood on her frilly knickers, and have separated her from the others. I can't see any bleeding at the moment, but will have to clean up the area to get a proper look at her vent etc. What should I use for cleaning her- boiled water? Should I add anything else? Will she be ok overnight with damp feathers or should I do it in the morning? Any advice gratefully received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegg Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Thank you, Egluntine will let you know how we get on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgies Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Tweety, yes I'd use some boiled water to clean your little lady and see what's going on. You can dry her using a hairdryer but remember to keep it moving and not get too close - the feather quills heat up really fast and you don't want to burn her. Alternatively sit her on a wrapped hot water bottle once you've towel dried her as best you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 Budgies, thank you so much for your advice. I'll go and clean her up now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegg Posted May 7, 2009 Author Share Posted May 7, 2009 Our girls often go to bed with wet feathers (dont have the sense to shelter from the rain or perhaps they like it) and have always been okay. i put salt in the water as you would to bathe a wound did toy with the idea of using a spot of tea tree or antiseptic but essentially i wanted to clean away the blood to see what was going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted May 7, 2009 Share Posted May 7, 2009 I tried to clean up my little girls bottom, but it was a real mess and she was obviously distressed by the whole thing so I decided to leave it and take her to the vet tomorrow. It was very difficult to tell exactly where the blood had come from, and I didn't want to make things worse. Thanks for your advice - I'll let you know how she gets on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Sounds like a good idea Tweety. Fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegg Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Bellina seems fine vent seems less swollen she is eating and drinking, no more blood so have put her back with the others. feeding them corn instead of pellets. will bath her when i get back from work but all seems fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I'd always advise that if you're in any doubt at all, then take her to the vet. A good wash and investigate beforehand is necessary though - someone brought me a hen to look at last weekend and her botty was covered in blood. As Egluntine said - it goes a long way. After a good wash and chat to the owner, it turned out that she'd laid a softie and the membrane had been hanging out of her vent for a while (Don't knwo why the owner hadn't removed it). The other hens had pecked at it and caused some superficial damage around the outside of the vent. Luckily, everything was fine, we sprayed her with some purple spray (the one with aloe vera in) and dusted her nethers with vet wound powder. I heard yesterday that she's fien now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I have had another go at cleaning my girl's vent area this morning, before subjecting her to a stressful visit to the vet, but without much luck. I put her in some lukewarm boiled water with a drop of teatree oil added but it looks as if all the feathers under her vent are congealed in a thick mass and I just daren't mess about with it too much. She hasn't bled at all during the night, and to look at her you wouldn't think there was anything wrong with her at all, but I have made an appointment with the vet this pm and am keeping my fingers crossed for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I think that is a sensible precaution Tweety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgies Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 I'm glad she looks to be improving. I would keep an eye on her over the weekend if you can, in case she needs to try and lay again - which might cause the same thing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Just got back from the vet. Dottie's vent has somehow been torn, and the vet has cauterised it with potassium pomanganate to try to stop it bleeding. What looked like a congealed mass of feathers was exactly that, and he has removed it. I have to keep her separate from the other hens until the wound has healed, which is no problem, but I have also got to try to stop her laying as much as is possible, which may be more of a problem! Is there any way of doing this, presumably by diet? I have removed the layers mash from her run, and given her mixed corn instead - will this help or is there something else I should be giving her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Yup, keep her in the dark and warm, no pellets, just corn or wheat. Try a pot egg under her to encourage her to go broody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Thanks Claret. Will do as you suggest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joegg Posted May 8, 2009 Author Share Posted May 8, 2009 Tweety, glad she seems okay. What happened to Bellina is a mystery she is right as rain now in with the others doing her usual stuff she laid a beautiful clean egg this morning. Vent now looks normal. Thanks for the support it gave me enough time to get my head together, instead of going on my first instinct when i saw blood and take her to the vet. As i am still a bit mystified i will give them a good clean out tomorrow and check all three out thoroughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Thanks, joegg, and I'm very glad to hear that Bellina is doing so well. I hope that Dottie recovers as quickly as Bellina, although I think it will be a few days before I can put her back in with the other girls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgies Posted May 8, 2009 Share Posted May 8, 2009 Good luck with nursing Dottie, Tweety Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...