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Further observations on ex-batts feed

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The girls have been on the Ex-batts feed for some time now. At the start I mentioned about the huge increase in curry poos :vom: . Well I have to say these haven't improved despite them having ample time to get used to it. Also curry poos definitely = flies; therefore increase in curry poos = increase in flies :( . Previously the girls were on Marriages and we definitely didn't have this problem.

 

However, remove the Lifeguard from their diet and the curry poos reduce dramtically :!: So it would seem that ....

 

Ex-batts feed + Lifeguard = curry poos + flies

 

Now I know that Allen & Page say there is no need for further supplements on this feed, however I have seen the benefits in the Lifeguard and really do not want to take them off it. Namely because having taken in poor & sickly stock in February, the Lifeguard really does seem to have keep them in good health. They were off it for 2 weeks and promptly went down hill (needless to say they are on it again).

 

I also don't want to take them off the Ex-batts feed for 2 reasons; we can no longer source Marriages locally and secondly Carmen, one of our original girls, has always laid eggs with paper-thin shells. No amount of grit /calcium/ supplements sorted it. However since she has been on the new feed the improvement in shell quality has been astounding and I am no longer worried that one day she would suffer from an egg breaking inside.

 

So, maybe I simply have to accept that the increase in curry poos is incidental compared to the health benefits. My only concern is that maybe it is too rich a mixture and they are not absorbing all the nutrients they should be :think:

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what about mixing it with some other & bokashi?

I took mine off it as I also hasd suspected Bracyspira... which lives in the ceceum & also gives curry type poos!

I also dosed with Oregostim, which has fixed that, now I use the ex bat as a wet mash & add lots of garlic with it.

I have to say that whatever I have a horrengous fly problem. :evil:

am poo picking almost all day & currently using 30/40 fly paper revery 3-5 days! on the ground and under upturned wire hanging baskets!

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I gave the ex-batt my full support for as long as I could but I could no longer deal with the volume of curry poos. I went back to the normal Allen and Page, Small Holder Range Layers Pellets and things have been back to normal ever since.

 

I was very disappointed to find this as I really did want to give the ex-batt food my full support, but it made the living conditions for my chooks into a a place I didn't want to walk in to :vom: .

 

The ex-batts seem to be feathering up ok on the normal food now, so fingers crossed.

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It only seems to be when you add Lifeguard into the equation - or that is what I have found.

 

Mine love the crumbs too - although I have to buy both crumbs and pellets because a couple would rather starve than eat the crumbs :roll: Spoilt madams! Can't really tell them that they are not getting down from the table until they have cleared their plates can I! :lol:

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This is my 1st post on here as we are getting our 1st 4 ex-batt hens in a month's time (so excited!!) and have been very interested in this thread as the BHWT have recommended the allen & page ex-batt food but my friend who keeps chickens also swears by lifeguard so we were intending to use the 2 together but don't like the sound of all this curry-poo business!

 

Can anyone recommend anything the place of life guard? I believe apple cidar vinegar is also used for the same purpose (please correct me if i'm off track here!) but we have galvanised drinkers so not a good idea....help! :(

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