Omlet cube and run

[Lesley]

(sorry, the swear filter won't let me use the correct term)

 

When Jazz first came into season she didn't make much mess although it was obvious and we had a few little drips to clean up. We've thought Tali was coming into season for the last couple of weeks - she's pretty swollen around the rear and her behaviour is very erratic. She was very submissive around the males dogs on the walk on Saturday with Clare's Ruby and friends dogs (no entire males)

 

Do some females show very little sign of being in season or do you think she's still leading up to it? Would the Vet know if she has had a first season? - we need to know so that we can have her spayed at the right time.

[Chucky Mama]

It is usually fairly obvious when they are in season proper. There is swelling, then bleeding which then reduces although it is at this point when the discharge is less bloody and clearer that they are the most desirable to male dogs so beware, even neutered dogs may find them irresistible. If you tickle her around her tail she will curl it over if she is ready to accept a male. Her nipples may be more pronounced too. Ideally dogs are speyed halfway between a season but the most important thing is that she is not actually in season when she is done. Many are now speyed before their first season. Hope this helps

[The Dogmother]

Exactly what I have found Rachel; my last lurcher was a rescue and not spayed so I had to wait until she had a season so that I knew where I stood with dates. She was in pre-season for a couple of weeks but then started to 'stand' for a friend's neutered male.

 

Most vets now seem to be recommending getting them done before the first season (Ruby was), it seems to be less traumatic for the dog.

[Cooks]

well this was certainly always what I was told but upon getting Suzi the vet told me times had changed and now they liked the dog to have their first season... I was baffled, but we all try to follow the vets advice as they are supposed to know best, turns out suzi had two seasons 1 mini and 1 full on due to losing my FIL when I waws due to have her spayed so I got it all wrong there.

[Torrin]

We have a 6 mth old newfie puppy so I am waiting for her first season - no idea when it's supposed to be!

 

I was also told to wait until she's had a season, or preferably even 2, before getting her done.

 

Cuurent thinking seems to be it can cause them development problems if done too soon but i don't know if it makes a difference what breed they are.

[Chucky Mama]

You definitely need to wait with a Newfie. They can have continence problems if done too young. Little dogs like JRT's are often done before a first season. There is a much smaller chance of mammary tumours in later life if speyed before a first season but a greater chance (although still small) of urinary incontinence issues.

[Lesley]

With Labs they like it to be 3 months after a season. Jazz was 8 months when she had her first and then she was spayed 3 months later.

 

Thanks for the replies - I think Tali is still building up to it..........

[Chucky Mama]

Yep, midway between seasons is ideal. If you keep them lovely and slim it makes surgery much easier and less traumatic for the dog. Also remember to reduce their food intake afterwards (usually by approx 1/3) to prevent weight gain

[Rhapsody]

My husky X and staffie X were both done before first season with no bother at all, no incontinence, ladyproblems, nothing. The huskyX is now 13 years old and can still hold her bladder for England. My vet at the time maintained it was a bit of an old wives tale with no basis to let them have a season, it used to be let them have pups!