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[sadietoo]

I totally agree. My 17 year old wanted to go to the second rally on vote day, but (fortunately) had tickets to go to a gig so couldn't do both, and I persuaded him that if he went he would be kettled (spookily I was correct how did I manage that?) and miss his gig.

I can only say I'm selfishly glad that he didn't attend , so I'm not in the position of that Mum.. when young people are angry they are irrational , and I couldn't guarantee his behaviour under pressure, although normally he is a charming and polite young man. I don't honestly think I could shop my own child..

 

As others have said I wish she had been rewarded by some leniency in the sentencing...No one died and it seems to me that this sentence is politically motivated...I don't believe that our justice system should be manipulated this way.... to be fair every drunken lout on a Saturday night would have to serve the same sentence...

[debbier]

I agree with so many of the postings on here, and feel in good company.

 

My son attended the Birmingham protests. I had some misgivings about it: not about him, I hasten to add, as he is (I think?!) very well balanced and sensible. However, he is old enough to make his own decisions now, and it was his choice to attend.

 

As it happened, the Birmingham protests were entirely peacable, and the students were commended by the Police on the local BBC news. I didn't notice any of this reported in the national news, or press, but maybe it wasn't sensational enough?

[patsylabrador]

I know I am completely out of sync here with everyone but I don't see how his sentence could have been any more lenient. I can't think of any country in the world that doesn't treat rioting as a very grave matter, and in some countries he would have been shot dead on the spot or disappeared without trace for his actions . Even our close neighbours deal with rioters much more robustly than we do.

I'm also grateful. My gratitude is that the police weren't knocking on someone's door that day to explain why their son or daughter had died because an idiot decided to hurl a heavy metal object from the roof of a building onto their heads.

 

I've posted a link that shows the moment it crashes to the pavement in case you haven't seen it. He's already had his lucky break in life in that he didn't kill someone.

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[Cinnamon]

Patsylabrador........this thread is about the womans actions in 'shopping' her son to the Police,not his sentencing,& that is what we are attempting to discuss.

Please keep on topic,

Thanks

[patsylabrador]

I thought this forum was pleased for conversations to expand, that is what has been stated before.

[Egluntyne]

Am fascinated, and very sorry to read the story about your uncle, Tiggy. Thanks for sharing it with us. Fortunately we have come a long way since then.

[Old Speckled Hen]

Back on topic................I am not sure that I could shop my child as this brave woman did.

 

Its a huge instinct to protect your child & I think that she is extraordinary to do what she has done

 

Yes you would, probably with only a little hesitation. It's the way we have been brought up, it's the decent thing to do.

The fact that some people are feckless is nothing to do with it. I don't consider her particularly brave either. Do you think she might have considered the ramifications of punishment should her son have run away and waited to be caught? Of course she did, which is why she persuaded him to hand himself in and drove him to the police station. I'm sure this mitigated his sentence.

[Cinnamon]

I am sure you are right,actually.

I have always made my girls aware that actions = consequences,so I think that they could be fairly easily persuaded to do the right thing.

It is only part of human nature to consider the worsening consequences should a crime be denied,& that is probably the first thing she told her son. I still admire her actions.