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what are your views on the dog breeding situation?

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Are you coming back Paola?

 

Woo Hooooo :dance::dance:

 

Yeah, bit of a last minute thing... Just me and the kids.. They want chickens again! DS was funny and said "not the ones you eat but the ones you collect eggs from"!! We will be moving back to our old house. I cannot believe how much the Omlet shop sells now, like WIRs! I fancy a Go because of the removable nest. Might have to visit the mothership for a looksie!

 

I do fancy a bull breed dog, just need to do loads of homework first. One of the rescue places does seminars, which is a fantastic idea.

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@ paola if you want a bully contact http://ironmountaindogrescue.webs.com

 

Ok this is Metz, who was my dog, and has passed away and whose story illustrates the problem perfectly.

 

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A SamoyedX Border Collie she lived with us for 14 years, my boys grew up with her. One of a litter of 8 dumped at rescue by a dog breeder. This lady's Samoyed was kept unspayed for breeding but escaped from the garden and was found being serviced by a collie in the local park. There was no attempt made to rehome the puppies, the exit plan was to take them in a cardboard box to a rescue organisation and make it their problem. One can only wonder what the rest of that breeding ladydogs life was like :?

 

Flossie (I dont have a photo)

 

My neighbours Springer Spaniel. Kept unspayed because she was from a prestigious working line. Got herself impregnated by a wandering dog- my neighbour called me in the middle of the night when she ran outside in a thunderstorm, we found her giving birth in a hedge to a single enormous puppy. We took her to the vet and she nearly didnt make it. This dog is still unspayed.

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Another dog found tied to railings on fireworks night, hours after giving birth, at only 18 months old.

 

Enter - stage left the mastiff cross. Soulful eyes reflect only some of the trauma this young dog has been through. Found under appalling circumstances, she was taken to a pound. She was checked over by a vet and found, at 18mths, to have given birth about 48hrs before - no sign of any puppies - possibly her second litter.

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For so many dogs to be bred suggests that there is a market for them. Puppies are cute and fun and people often buy them without thinking at all about the long term commitment involved. I saw only today that a former colleague of mine has posted pictures on her facebook page of her new springer spaniel puppy. I can almost guarantee that this is a disaster waiting to happen -she doesn't have a great track record with pets, and I can't imagine for one second that she will have considered the fact that this dog will grow up to be a large, boisterous animal who will want to be walked for two hours every day (and more!). More than likely this dog will end up in a rescue centre within a couple of years. An example of irresponsible purchasing.

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I'm all for thought out dog breeding for the love of the breed and for keeping a good lineage going. My family bred Staffordshire Bull Terriers in the 60's, 70's and 80's for pets and for showing. They were very proud of the dogs they produced and only had one litter every two years from each dam. They produced some great show dogs and provided me with some great family pets :D

I'm just very anti the it's a quick way to make some cash, blow the quality of the sire/dam.

Some people that I know (I won't call them friends, more aquaintances) mated their female Visla with their friends' Visla because you can sell the pups for £850 and we should get at least 6 pups if not more. There was no veterinary advice taken, the dam was a runt dog herself and not what I would consider breedable. In the end she delivered 9 pups of which 7 survived. They have all got homes, thank goodness but I do wonder if they would be taken back if there's problems. They did say that it was much harder work than they thought though :wink:

I too foster rescue dogs and feel that it's very much a double edged sword. A lot of people appear to want to perfect dog, bidable, trainable, good with kids, good with other dogs, quiet, etc, etc. There are only a small percentage that put in the work to achieve these desired qualities. A puppy needs training and socialising to become a happy dog and I fear that a lot of (unreputable) breeders don't ask or don't inform new owners of the commitment required to get that "perfect" dog.

Lazy breeding + Lazy owners = lots of dogs on death row

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This article *warning, shocking pictures* is about a prime example of ill-thought out breeding and lazy/careless owners.

 

I once nursed a dog with demodetic mange (my previous lurcher before Ruby) and it takes months of hard work, sulphur baths and various other treatments to get rid of it. On the positive side, at least he was rescued before he died and is now on the receiving end of loads of treatment and love. I only hope that the evil beasts who abandoned him have caught the mange themselves.. Karma.... 8) I consider myself pretty tough, but those pictures make me want to weep.

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Lets discuss this. Lets discuss the pros and cons the myths and the reality.....I'm going to shut up, over to you guys..

 

Too broad a remit here.

Dog breeding in volume/puppy farm.

Breeding dogs with an inherent genetic (Cavalier King Charles Spaniel) or a conformation problem (Bulldog)

These are just examples......What specifically do you mean, Rhapsody

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