Scramble Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I was wondering can Diatomaceous Earth be used as a wormer? I have ordered some from Omlet and on the receipt as well as saying de-mite/tick/lice it says it can also be used as a wormer. Is this true? Can I use Diatom instead of Flubenvet? Very Confused... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Looney Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I think you can use it as a wormer.....never tried it though. I use flubenvet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 It can be used as a preventative, but not as a treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scramble Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 If I were to use Diatom or flubenvet do you have any idea of the amount to put in their food? Thanks a lot Loony and Eglutine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urbanchick Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I got some diatom recently and the leaflet I got with it recommendeds it for use as a natural wormer, with no egg withdrawal required. For quantities, it says: Chickens and other Poultry: 5% in feed, use at full strength in dusting boxes and nest boxes I was quite impressed to discover I can sprinkle it on my dog's bedding, feed it to my dog, even use it on ants and slugs! Pretty versatile stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angels4 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 While shopping out of state for supplies this morning, I inquired about a wormer for chickens and the man at the feed store said that chickens don't need to be wormed. I countered with the fact that because the girls eat slugs and worms (known carriers for worms and thier eggs) they must get worms so it would be important to worm them. He just laughed and walked away. Flubevent I watch the girls carefully and even do pooh inspections and haven't seen any worms, so that must mean the DE is preventing them from getting worms. Right?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkisland Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Angels4, if I were you, I'd consult a vet. Flubenvet is available in the UK but it is a prescription drug and has to be sold by a licensed vendor of animal pharmaceuticals - we can't just pick it up at the pet shop. Hth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 A prescription isn't required. You can buy it online and I got some last week at William Eyres, an agricultural merchant, in Hope Valley, Derbyshire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angels4 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 A prescription isn't required. You can buy it online and I got some last week at William Eyres, an agricultural merchant, in Hope Valley, Derbyshire. I wonder if they are able to ship it to the US? Maybe the omlet shop should carry it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkisland Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) Yes, I know you don't need an actual paper prescription - got mine online also, but did have to provide details of my flock (tricky, since I haven't actually got them yet!). My understanding is that the companies that sell it do have to be licensed, as they are the ones that 'prescribe' it for you, before supplying it. You can't just pick it up at the petshop, like I say. Angels4 is in the USA, where it doesn't seem to be quite so easy to resolve, and he has been to the feedstore where the proprietor was unhelpful, which is why I suggested he consults a vet. Edit to add, have now looked at the label and it clearly states: To be supplied only on veterinary prescription. Edited August 25, 2008 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angels4 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Angels4, if I were you, I'd consult a vet. Flubenvet is available in the UK but it is a prescription drug and has to be sold by a licensed vendor of animal pharmaceuticals - we can't just pick it up at the pet shop. Hth Our local vet has wormers. I'm not sure of the brand. However in order to get some from him I have to bring all the girls for a weigh. Mind you I would do this, but it might cause a bit of unnessary stress on the girls. Maybe I'll just take the "wait and see" approach and if upon inspection one of the girls has worms I'll bring the one in and get enough for the four. BTW I'm a he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkisland Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Oh, what a pain that sounds Angels! Does he not trust you to weight them yourself? BTW, sorry for wrongly presuming your gender! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angels4 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Oh, what a pain that sounds Angels! Does he not trust you to weight them yourself? Apparently not. Not a problem about the gender. I did a poll recently called boy vs. girl. Wanted to know who was the majority on board. Most people thought I was female because of the name. Most were suprised to find out I was a chap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 According to the Jannsen Website Flubenvet is a POMS VPS medicine. **Here**. is further clarification if you can be bothered to plough through it. I imagine the agricultural merchant is a "suitable person". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angels4 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 According to the Jannsen Website Flubenvet is a POMS VPS medicine. **Here**. is further clarification if you can be bothered to plough through it. I imagine the agricultural merchant is a "suitable person". Thanks for that Egluntine. All very technical and wordy isn't it. I'll read it later tonight if I have trouble sleeping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scramble Posted August 25, 2008 Author Share Posted August 25, 2008 Thanks for all the replies! For now I think I'll just use DE, but if worming problems do become more pronounced then i'll order some flubenvet as the people here on Omlet seem to swear by it. Plus, the fact I've already ordered one load of goods from omlet and I don't know how much postage would be on one item from another source. Anyway, Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iar fach goch Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I just pick mine up from the local agricultural supplier - no questions asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Brown Clan Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I ordered it online and wasn't asked questions just a box to fill in how many chickens i had (as if they would check anyway) still i suppose they have to cover themselves , but it arrived the next day didn't see any worms in pooh ( yes i did check) but one of my girls was unwell and had been using ver-mix up until then but i can assure you after using flubernvet they had worms ........................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
