the hopefulls Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hello everyone, after reading a few items about poo, we got a bit worried about one of our girls still producing yellow poo, alot of comments is about them settling in etc but its been nearly 3 weeks and we're still getting the occasional yellow one. Looked at what people use and flubervet (not sure if i spelt that right) comes up a lot, so off i go in search of it and i can't find it for toffee, so i found verm - X in liquid form, in scats and as i have heard that mentioned on omlet i got that for the time being. (sorry i'm going on a bit here) so to the point. . . . . . . . Is Verm - x any good? How do i give it to our girls? They really didn't like it soaked on bread ( they almost run away from it) And. . . . Where can i get a better product if verm - x is no good? Sorry again for going on and all the questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 http://www.petmeds.co.uk/p-3359-flubenvet-medicated-premixture.aspx No prescription needed I worm mine once monthly as they free range all day Small amount of powder on the tip of a pointed knife inserted into a grape. It's safe. Occasionally one hen has grabbed an extra grape or two off one of the others and she has been ok. Or you can mix it in the food. Has to be given for seven days. No egg withdrawal at normal doses. Lots of other threads on dosage on the forum. Easy and more effective than Verm-X Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Here viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I personally dont like verm -x it is a more "natural" product but I only use Flubenvet and have had no worming problems since 2006 and using flubenvet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazzled Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I've had my chickens (from Omlet) for 10 days. Would anyone recommend worming now, or if not when They freerange for part of the day (also I've seen Dorothy making the gape action once in awhile) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Hi The veterinary recommendation is every 4-6 months The more they have the opportunity to eat worms, snails and slugs which are the hosts for chicken worms the more frequently they should be wormed. It wouldn't do any harm to worm them. Yesterday I caught two of mine tearing a banana-sized slug apart. YUCK YUCK!! Horrendous!!! Horrible entrails dripping from their beaks!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I found Verm-X useless I'm afraid. I use Flubenvet every 4 months or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 mine laid softies & had diarrea for the 3 days they wer on fluvi... did I give too much? was told they need 7 days treatment... anyone know why? anyone else had sam or similar problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Transient gastrointestinal upset is a known symptom of overdose or maybe just hypersensitivity. How did you give it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoice Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 its been nearly 3 weeks and we're still getting the occasional yellow one. If it's only ever now and again then could they just be a normal 'curry' poo? They occur about once every 10 poos or so. (They stink too! ) Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Transient gastrointestinal upset is a known symptom of overdose or maybe just hypersensitivity.How did you give it? I put about the end of a teaspone on a saucer cut 4 grapes in half & dipped each half into it, giving 1 grape each. didn't look like much. Do you know wjy 7 days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 To catch any late hatchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 ok... that makes some sense, but if they are out free ranging then couldn't they go straight back out & eat an infected worm/slug anyway? just a tad paronoid about over medicating.. but don't want nasty worms am assuming every 6 months is sort of prophylactic anyway..??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 yes.....but to heavy a cargo of worms can make them poorly and can stop them laying so a clear out every so often is a good idea. Some people don't bother to worm at all. There is no obligation to do so. Do what feels right. If you observe your hens carefully, you will know if they need worming and make a decision then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I personally think that worming is one of the basic essentials you can provide for your hens . We do have a lot of bits and bobs here of health supplements/medical aids we have collected over time but I believe a good wormer is a must. (I do it for my dog, so I do the same for the chooks). Even at my hen parties I recommend if there is one thing you are going to buy its a wormer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutrix Farmers Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 If Verm-X is no good why do Omlet stock that and not Flubenvet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Thanks all.. Egluntine, that makes perfect sense. I only worm my dogs when they have worms... I only worm me if I get worms too, which unfortunately I have had THAT displeasure being around kids. I think by the nature of chickens ie what they do & eat... wrmer needs to be in the medicine box. I think I will use the Vermex & diatomos earth and use the fluvi as & when and watch my chickens... from pictures I have seen posted I should know as I poo h pick all the time. and have read the signs for gapeworm.... Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGirl Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Interesting thread, I have bought both Verm-x and Flubenvet after reading the forum, probably use the Fvet in the end! Could I ask, is there a minimum age the chooks should be wormed? I collect mine at the weekend and was wondering whether I should worm them relatively soon if the breeder hasnt done so. They will be approx 16 weeks I think, tbc. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 you can worm birds a young as three weeks of age with flubenvet don't know about verm-x sorry, never used it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 If Verm-X is no good why do Omlet stock that and not Flubenvet? Perhaps they have had reasonable results with it. All a matter of personal experience. It didn't work for my girls, and they were on it for months(at great expense) as I liked the organic/herbal thingy. They were heaving with worms so I couldn't recommend it myself. A course of Flubenvet put them right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 is it possible that your girls had worms before the verm x? That vermex repels/discourages them not kills them. yuk heaving with them.... dare I enquire how you 1st new this? (be prepared!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 If Verm-X is no good why do Omlet stock that and not Flubenvet? I have seen several threads on this forum where owners have their chickens on verm-x and they still have worms. I dont know why omlet stock it, maybe because its a more natural deterrent than a cure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 is it possible that your girls had worms before the verm x?That vermex repels/discourages them not kills them. yuk heaving with them.... dare I enquire how you 1st new this? (be prepared!!!) I put them on it from the outset....and they were Omlet hens so.......... How did I know? The poo tray was squirming one day, with very obvious wrigglers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 oh well that blows THAT theory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevie Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 If Verm-X is no good why do Omlet stock that and not Flubenvet? Because despite the public being able to buy it off the net from various companies with no prescription-it can only be sold by a licenced veterinary store and ok'd by a pharmacist.Im guessing that Omlet have no one on the payroll who could legally authorise any sales plus they promote organic poultry and Flubenvet isnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
