TAJ Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 The version for small scale chicken use is now here - Flubenvet have sent me the PDF leaflet that explains all - basically 1 scoop (provided in the packet) will do 2kg of feed. Not sure how to get the PDF leaflet on here - if anyone wants it - or could get it on here just send me your e-mail address and I can forward it. Tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hen Watch Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 viewtopic.php?f=11&t=31944 Or see the advert on pg3 of Practical Poultry Magazine Nov 2008 issue. Flubenvet 1% medicated pre-mixture now in a 60g pack for the domestic poultry keeper. A free leaflet about Flubenvet 1% and poultry worms is available from vets, licenced agricultrual merchants or by calling Janssen Animal Health on 01494 567 555 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Ooh, that's great news, thanks! About time they jumped on the backyard poultry bandwagon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve. Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Ooh, that's great news, thanks! About time they jumped on the backyard poultry bandwagon! They have and it's more expensive than the 'original' stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Ooh, that's great news, thanks! About time they jumped on the backyard poultry bandwagon! They have and it's more expensive than the 'original' stuff You're joking! Blooming typical! Hope it backfires on them then and everyone continues to use the original stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I shall carry on with the origianl stuff.......having just bought a new tub. I gave most of the contensts of my old tub away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I tried to get flubenvet from my local feed merchant/country store and was told i needed a prescription from the vet. Strange, but i rang the vet who insisted in an amazingly patronising tone that one could only order flubenvet in 20kg bags to mix with 4 tons of poultry feed and that I was clearly mistaken . I suggested that i was aware a new product was out and that even the old product was available in smaller sizes but he was most insistent. Then suggested panacur and was taken aback when I told him about the egg withdrawal period with panacur that wasn't necessary with flubenvet... Omlet effect strikes again but in a very frustrating way: I know what I want, I know that I can get it, but my pompous vet won't let me have it, and my local feed merchant won't supply it! AAARGH Luckily for me, mostin is coming to my rescue and sending me some ( ) but I didn't want to have to beg off someone else, it's all very frustrating! will order online next time and be done with the whole situation! Where do you all recommend I get it from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostin Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 (edited) will order online next time and be done with the whole situation! Where do you all recommend I get it from? Try petmeds.co.uk or animalmedicines.co.uk I have not ordered off either of these sites before but you don't need a prescription, the site I have used before for xeno-200 vetscriptions.co.uk wants a vets prescription for it, so I can't give any personal recommendations sorry. Sorry, it's just been pointed out to me that this post is not very clear. Vetscriptions.co.uk did not want a prescription for me to buy xeno -200, I could buy that with no problem. Vetscriptions.co.uk did want a prescription for me to buy a tub of flubenvet though, sorry for the double meaning and bad english in my post. Edited for clarity . Edited October 5, 2008 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickcluck Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 laurmurf have a look around on here as there are loads of threads... Am desperately trying to remember where I got mine from.... but have gone brain dead!!! Will let you know if I can find it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAJ Posted October 4, 2008 Author Share Posted October 4, 2008 The e-mail the flubenvet makers sent me was dated 1st Oct and they said it should be with vets/retailers by mid/end of next week, so it is quite possible a vet doesn't know about it as yet. Tracy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickcluck Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I got mine from Beeston Animal Health if that's any help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandychick Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Does anyone know how much the 60g tub will be? I've just been doing some maths and think this might work out a bit pricey If the normal 240g tub is £16 (near enough), then the 60g tub should be £4. But, the new stuff is 1% compared to the old stuff at 5% - so you use 5 times as much. Therefore the 60g tub is equivelent to a 12g tub of the original strength. So the price of the 60g tub should be 80p Think they might be charging a bit more than that though I am just back from the pub, I could be wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Cor.....my brain hurts now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJuff Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Interesting maths! I asked at our local farmways store and he said they would have it in by next week. he did say it was more expensive than the old big tubs of it!!! Let's wait and see!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottie Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I saw on another website last week that the 60g tub is to cost £17 for a tub! Even dearer than the big tub! Sheila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenmb Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I found this on the internet earlier this afternoon which seems to back up the 'more expensive than the bigger tubs' theory that AJuff mentions. This has now been released by the manufacturers. This is the information that I have been sent: Flubenvet 1 % Medicated Premixture 60 gram pack is ideal for people who own only a few chickens and is an in-feed medication which is used for 7 consecutive days per treatment. Re-treatment is necessary due to the potential for re-infection every 10-12 weeks depending on individual risk factors. Where a worm problem has been diagnosed, re-treatment after 3 weeks is recommended. Flubenvet can be purchased from a licensed agricultural merchant or a veterinary practice and is available on prescription from your veterinarian, pharmacist or suitably qualified person. There is zero withdrawal on chicken eggs......... ........Flubenvet 1 % Medicated Premixture is prepared from Flubenvet Premix which contains flubendazole 5 % w/w, with Vm number 00242/4056 It is likely to retail at £17.00 plus VAT and each 60 gram pack contains enough to treat around 20 chickens (depending on size) For further product information contact Janssen Animal Health on 01494 567555. I have queried the cost of this and this was the reply: Quote: As of 1st October, new legislation on the use of in feed medicines will become active. In order to comply with new regulations it has been necessary to produce the new 60gm Flubenvet 1% pack, which has meant producing a new more dilute formulation with new packaging requirements. These changes have incurred significant add on manufacturing and quality control costs but Janssen Animal Health are confident that this new pack will bring the benefits of worm control to back yard poultry keepers. I am awaiting information about suppliers but am told that most animal health suppliers should be able to source the new packs. from http://www.chat.allotment.org.uk/viewtopic.php?p=287487 Mmm, do we think that this is a valid reason to up the costs to small flock users? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hen Watch Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 will order online next time and be done with the whole situation! Where do you all recommend I get it from? Laurie, I got mine online from www.petmeds.co.uk in Jan this year £14.28. No prescription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandychick Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Thanks for that info helenmb. I can’t imagine why anyone would buy this. It is economically ridiculous. They must think we are a bit dim. You would need to buy 20 x 60g tubs of 1%, to get the same amount as the usual 240g 5% tub. That would be £340.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Good lord! They must think we are as daft as they are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mostin Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Thanks for that info helenmb. I can’t imagine why anyone would buy this. It is economically ridiculous. They must think we are a bit dim. You would need to buy 20 x 60g tubs of 1%, to get the same amount as the usual 240g 5% tub. That would be £340.00 Do they think we are chicken brained as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helenmb Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 (edited) I have tried to add an attachment to the forum but apparently we can't do that so I have converted the PDF of the Flubenvet leaflet to a jpeg and added it to my Gallery in the Flubenvet album. Here is a link to the album too click here to see the leaflet Hopefully this will help a bit with the info some of you are interested in. Also, Janssen's have said the following:- Dear Helen, As we do not sell any product from here we really don't know what the practice or merchant will sell it for but an approximate cost will be between £15 - £25 per pack but that is a real estimate. Kind regards, So our worries about a pricey option are correct me thinks! If anyone wants a copy of the PDF PM me with your email address and I'll send it on. Edited October 8, 2008 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosphorus Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I tried to get this new 60g size after seeing the add in , however my Vet only had the 240g size and wanted me to see the Vet to obtain it! I said I would order it online as I could get it for the same price without the Vet appointment (and charge!). Ordered 240g version from Petmeds this week and it arrived after a few days - no problems Think I paid £15 or just under. Anyway just need to work out how to give it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinkychick Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 My brain hurts! Is it better to buy the old stuff at about £15ish for 240g or the new 1% stuff 60g for £15ish? I dont know whether to go here for the new stuff... http://www.wormers.co.uk/acatalog/Online_Catalogue_Pigeon___Poultry_18.html or here for the old stuff http://www.petmeds.co.uk/c-433-flubenvet.aspx?gclid=CIHhgJaCqpYCFQWR1Qod_2zp0A will someone please clarify? I need to buy tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phosphorus Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I worked on the basis last week, when I had to make that decision, that I would rather pay the same price and have the 240g which would last me infinite doses until the date on the pack past. I don't think you get as many doses with the 60g and from what I could gather from other posts they are taking the mickey on the price I have found it easy just to mix the correct dose with the pellets and give it that way, but then I do have 7 hens so am dealing with a reasonable amount of feed for a week. I would go for the 240g unless it will make it harder to dispense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 It also appears that the new packs are weaker, as they are recommending re-dosing every 3 weeks or so! I can understand the need for a weaker dose on a more regular basis, but that makes it even more expensive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...