Nicola H Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 I have just seen in the newspaper that Real story on Monday BBC1 @ 7.30pm are revealing details of the results of a survey testing chickens from supermarkets and wholesalers for bacteria such as E-coli. A significant number test positive for antibiotic-resistant bugs and germs usually only found in hospitals.............. just another good reason why we shouldn't buy supermarket chicken, the title in the paper was very apt "Crying Fowl". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Frugal Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Thanks for that, Nicola. I'll be watching . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison M Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 Hi Nicola, Sounds interesting, I'll be tuning in. Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Just read this thread....and missed the programme. I ought to invest in a TV guide (already borrowed a video from Louise of the dispatches programme)! Was it as good as you'd all hoped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KateB Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 It was very, very interesting - as someone who has recurrent UTI's and the antibiotic trimethoprim no longer works it perhaps gave me an insight as to why - perhaps not but I like having a solution and reason for everything! The programme suggested that it could be related to the fact that a decent percentage of chicken containing e-coli is resistant to at least one, if not multiple antibiotics.... Just gave me another reason to stay away from supermarkets and especially their meat.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Just gave me another reason to stay away from supermarkets and especially their meat.... I'm with you there Kate. We've gone vegetarian for the time being, until I can find a good organic meat supplier in our area. If all else fails, I will use Sheepdrove, as suggested somewhere else in the forum by Jane (I think) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I forgot it was on so didn't tape it never mind I am sure it will be repeated at some point Antibiotics are so over used is society it is unbelievable. I have alot of antibiotic allergies and am becoming quite food intolerant I wonder if there is a connection No don't tell me I don't want to know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 I am the same Louise I have just been to the hospital for allergy tests to find out which antibiotics I am allergic to and there are quite a few........The programme last night got me thinking and it is all over the papers today there is a big article in Gina's favourite newspaper the Daily Mail I promise I will line the poo tray with it when I have read the article and done the Sudoku.............Honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I have always been allergic to some Nicola but even the new modern ones bring me out fortunately I have a very good immune system and haven't required any in 6 years now and then I vowed never again as the side effects are so bad. I wonder if my healthy immune system is BECAUSE I can't take the antibiotics? ie my own immunity has been able to develop okay without assistance therefore it is stronger That and all the dirt and worms etc I used to grub about with as a kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicola H Posted August 16, 2005 Author Share Posted August 16, 2005 I haven't taken any antibiotics for about 10 years Louise, I feel so poorly with the side effects, but unfortunately I have to have an operation which will involve a bone graft and I will need antibiotic cover to give the graft the best chance of taking........... I am sure the foods we eat these days does have an effect on our health I am trying hard to stop shopping at the supermarket and I try to buy meat from local farmers markets in fact I am going to an organic farm this afternoon to stock up the freezer. Lets hope that programmes like these make a difference, I watch people buying chicken in the supermarket and I want to tell them what they are eating, in my head I am saying "put it down you can't eat that "......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 there is a big article in Gina's favourite newspaper the Daily Mail I promise I will line the poo tray with it when I have read the article and done the Sudoku.............Honest. Hands up - I bought it too Have done the SuDoku - so I'm ready for lining already! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louise Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I am dreadful for reading the ingredients in things and putting myself off eating. I am too lazy to 'grow' my own yoghurt but I will only buy ones where the only added ingredient is milk and add my own fruit etc. Problem is getting an alternative sometimes. I was on the bus last weekend listening to a conversation (as you do ) and these women with children were saying how they hoped we would get a Tesco opening up in the town as they are so cheap. I wanted to tell them "Ooops, word censored!"nic is a quicker way to poison their children and probably less cruel but I stopped myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I'm hoping we'll go a full circle and find Green Grocers and Butchers with Deli's back on our high street. Luckily, we have a fantastic Butcher and Green Grocer down the road from us, and I just hope they stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarahJo Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I watched and remembered my times in the lab with antibiotic resistant bugs (14 years ago ). Funny thing is .. they were struggling then with Vancomycin resistance, so it really came as not great suprise to me .... we go to an organic farm and get antibiotic free/hormone free chicken to roast. . I have become a right "live off the garden" freak too, and will only eat my eggs, and the adopted flocks if I can help it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KateB Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I agree completely with so much of what has been said - about 5 years ago the staple food in my diet was antibiotics - I put my trust in the doctors and did as they said but ended up getting more and more ill. It was infection, after infection, I developed a strong sensitivity to 3 antibiotics and got to the point where they were questioning ME. It was then I decided to take my health into my own hands - took 3 months off work, ate properly, took various complementary remedies and got my feet back on the ground but still wasn't right so INSISTED I was referred to a specialist - they told me nothing was wrong, did all the scans, tests etc. but I kicked up so much of a fuss they did a laparoscopy and had a look at my tummy to discover I had a tumour (fortunately nothing nasty) the size of my fist hanging off my chronically inflamed gall bladder! I'm by no means saying that doctors are a waste of time but that in certain circumstances some just need to get onto the next patient because of time restraints (and the fact that they are over worked, underpaid and under appreciated... ) so prescribe antibiotics and move on - just that in this case the antibiotics made me far more ill than I actually was and were never going to solve the problem in a million years... Unfortunately I still have to take them to try to stop any damage to my kidneys because I get about 8 doses of cystitis a year (despite surgery ) but I'm trying everything going to find a more natural cure or preventative... The thought that we can ingest massive amounts of antibiotic resistant bacteria and antibiotics in our food is scary... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motherhen Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Yes I saw it and most alarming it was too. I'm really going off eating meat in prepared meals or restaurants unless it is one of the restaurtants up here that uses local organic meat - fortunately there are a few really good ones. Yes I can recommend Sheepdrove. I've also been much more proactive at farmers markets and think I've found a local supplier of organic bacon, gammon and pork that is nearly as good in flavour as the RC bacon we got in our pig in a box. I'd like to use local producers where poss to reduce 'food miles'. Also the Fenwicks department store in the centre of Newcastle has a new food hall manager and they are getting much more local and organic and rare breed stuff, including fruit and veg - perhaps this is the trend for the future - a few central shops that stock a large range of ethical and 'green' food, backed up with farmers' markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alison M Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I agree completely with so much of what has been said - about 5 years ago the staple food in my diet was antibiotics - I put my trust in the doctors and did as they said but ended up getting more and more ill. It was infection, after infection, I developed a strong sensitivity to 3 antibiotics and got to the point where they were questioning ME. It was then I decided to take my health into my own hands - took 3 months off work, ate properly, took various complementary remedies and got my feet back on the ground but still wasn't right so INSISTED I was referred to a specialist - they told me nothing was wrong, did all the scans, tests etc. but I kicked up so much of a fuss they did a laparoscopy and had a look at my tummy to discover I had a tumour (fortunately nothing nasty) the size of my fist hanging off my chronically inflamed gall bladder! I'm by no means saying that doctors are a waste of time but that in certain circumstances some just need to get onto the next patient because of time restraints (and the fact that they are over worked, underpaid and under appreciated... ) so prescribe antibiotics and move on - just that in this case the antibiotics made me far more ill than I actually was and were never going to solve the problem in a million years... Unfortunately I still have to take them to try to stop any damage to my kidneys because I get about 8 doses of cystitis a year (despite surgery ) but I'm trying everything going to find a more natural cure or preventative... The thought that we can ingest massive amounts of antibiotic resistant bacteria and antibiotics in our food is scary... Hi KateB, Shocked to read your thread, feel so sorry for what you went through. I must admit that really, until I got my Eglu/chooks I was not a particularly healthy eating person. But after watching a programme a couple of weeks ago (can't remember what it was called, but it was on quite late), it put me off buying chicken from Tescos. After watching the programme last night, I will not buy any more chicken or meat unless it is organic. I did join weight watchers a month ago and most of their recipes include chicken, but I will only be making the dishes if it is organic meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorn Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Oh Kate - what a hellish time you must have had. I'm a great believer (which i think is part of the process) in food as an alternative antibiotic, but I do think sometimes when things go too far, as in your case, we have to rely on medicine to some extent. Gosh, what a roller coaster ride you've had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KateB Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Over it now though, lived to tell the tale and feel better than ever! Just goes to show that sometimes intuition is the best form of medicine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
