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[Carolinep]

I am far from convinced that it is safer to cycle on the pavements - for the cyclist.

 

cycling on the pavement means having to cross all the junction roads which is where most accidents happen, surely??

 

Phil

 

Your quite right Phil . Also you have the people reversing out of driveways etc..

[Egluntyne]

I really think that irrespective of whether it is safer for cyclists to ride on the pavement or not, the pavement is for PEDESTRIANS and as it is against the law for cyclists to use them over the age of 12, they should stick to the road, or walk.

[Guest]

I really think that irrespective of whether it is safer for cyclists to ride on the pavement or not, the pavement is for PEDESTRIANS and as it is against the law for cyclists to use them over the age of 12, they should stick to the road, or walk.

 

ok... and pedestrians should stay off the road!! then everybody wins!

 

 

Phil

[Egluntyne]

I absolutely agree Phil.

 

My mother wandered off a pavement, was hit by a car, executed a spectacular parabola over the top of the car and was then run over by the car following.

 

I won't list her horrific injuries, but lets just say that she never really recovered, and was in hospital initiially for over a year.

 

The reason she stepped off the pavement........to avoid a speeding cyclist.

[Guest]

My goodness Egluntine What a horrific story! And I bet there was no compensation for your poor mother.

[Egluntyne]

Absolutely none.

 

It was years ago...I was about 9. Well before the days of the compensation culture.

[Guest]

I'm really sorry to hear that Egluntine

 

Phil

[Egluntyne]

Thanks.

 

It was a long time ago.

[Egluntyne]

If all road (and pavement) users could show courtesy and common sense...that would be the answer.

 

Parked cars straddling pavements are another of my bugbears too. What about pram pushers, wheel chair users and the blind....!! Pedestrians are forced to step out into the road to avoid these vehicles....creating another opportunity for a collision with a car.

 

I agree Daniel....a blanket rule for the entire UK would be unworkable.

 

Here's a thought though...BRING BACK THE HUMBLE BICYCLE BELL...and use it to alert pedestrians of your approach. Better still ... cycle cautiously and with consideration for others.

Edited March 17, 2007 by Guest

[bronze]

It is still illegal to not have a bell

well it was last time I checked

[Guest]

If all road (and pavement) users could show courtesy and common sense...that would be the answer.

 

agree 100% - but don't hold your breath!!!

 

Parked cars straddling pavements are another of my bugbears too. What about pram pushers, wheel chair users and the blind....!! Pedestrians are forced to step out into the road to avoid these vehicles....creating another opportunity for a collision with a car.

 

or.... with a bicycle.... this very morning I had to slam my bike brakes on and swerve into the traffic in order to avoid slamming into an old woman who simply stepped out into the road without looking..

 

and did she stop to apologise?? did she %&!!!&!! I'd better stop before i slide off into a rant about how RUDE old people are nowadays - way ruder then kids around here...

 

 

Phil

[Egluntyne]

I'd better stop before i slide off into a rant about how RUDE old people are nowadays - way ruder then kids around here...

 

 

Phil

 

You're not kidding Revnev....I was in the supermarket the other day unloading onto the conveyer belt when an elderly woman barged in front and said "you don't mind if I push in do you...only I've just these few things". When I replied that in fact I did mind, and that I expected that the three people behind me who had also been waiting patiently might mind as well.

 

The chap behind pointed out that there were 2 ten items or less check outs.

 

She said that the queues were too long and that she wasn't prepared to wait.

 

We all agreed that we weren't letting her push in and then she let rip with foul language.

 

I asked the checkout girl to call security, and to carry on serving me. She looked terrified, poor thing.

 

The woman stormed off and joined another queue. It turns out that she regularly does this, as she considers herself above queueing.

 

The fact is that if the person behind me has only a few things, I often let them go before me...its only good manners..

 

It was the imperious manner with which this personage barged to the front without queueing that did it for me. In any case she wasn't just pushing in front of me, there were others in the queue.

 

Is it me??

[Mel (& Paul)]

Its not you

Its them

[Egluntyne]

Phew....thanks for that!

[Mel (& Paul)]

You are entirely welcome

[Cinnamon]

Egluntine,I had a similar experience in Tesco a few weeks ago.

 

A chap had 17 items & went to the 10 or less checkout - myself & all the others beind me protested.

 

When I had paid,I went to my car to see him (a bigwig in a suit) get into his Jag which was parked in the disabled spaces

Not only that but he was parked in such a way that he was ovelrlapping into the area next to the parking space next to him,which may have made it hard for that disabled person to get in or out of their car.

The carpark was literally empty - it was 8pm

 

Its just plain simple rudeness

 

Its not us, its them

[Christian]

Its always the same Cinnamon! Makes me mad

 

 

I try and boycott Tesc*s! I can't stand it!

[Egluntyne]

Don't you hope they will get their comeuppance oneday.

[Christian]

I live in hope!

 

Don't worry, they will!

[Carolinep]

My favourite is when people park in the "parent & child" spaces and obviously haven't got any little people with them, is to ask "If they've left their children in the car?" This usually creates rather red faces and I have had a man move his car before now...

 

Some people just do not respect the needs of others at times

[bronze]

My friend whos in a wheelchair asks very obviously ablebodied people who are parked in disabled bays 'well you've taken my space do you want my disibility as well'.

Its classic I want to be there when she does it I wouldnt be brave enough but then knowing her she definitely could.

 

I pointed out to a woman in M&S recently that I had been waiting far longer. Her attitude was not nice and I came away shaking.

[Carolinep]

Some people are just so ignorant Bron, many a time I've had to bite my lip

[Egluntyne]

It's really hard sometimes to decide whether to let peoples rudeness go, or to point out to them that it is unacceptable.

 

These days, you don't know if someone is going to pull a knife on you!!

 

It is especially difficult if you are not good at confrontation. Some people aren't.

 

I'm sure there is an organisation for good manners somewhere.

 

Here is something which brightened my day. I hope it brightens yours.

 

My 17 yr old ( he who grunts in monosyllables) has just come back from Leeds on the train.

 

He was moaning that he had had to stand all the way there yesterday. He had stood all most of the way back today "BECAUSE HE HAD GIVEN HIS SEAT UP FOR AN ELDERLY LADY" and "HE HAD HELPED HER WITH HER SUITCASE WHEN SHE GOT OFF "

 

Him Indoors remarked that he bet she thought she was being mugged!

[Carolinep]

Well done Egluntine for raising your children into well mannered individuals .

There aren't many 17 year olds around that would do what your son did without any prompting.

[Egluntyne]

No one is more surprised than I am CarolineP!