Henslaved Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) I believe my little Rose may have a case of coccidiosis. When I first got her at POL, I noticed that she wasn't digesting her food properly, and there was what I thought looked like intestinal lining at first (do they shed that at such a young age?). But today there was definately what looks like blood in the poop . She also has a bit of a cold (sneezing and a runny nose), which I have put down to the stress of the move, so I added a little Johnsons avc with cider vinegar to their water. Should I dose both my girls with coxoid? And do I need to up the dosage on the bottle as they are bigger than pigeons, or should I stick to what it says (I know it's not licensed for poultry use). Any advice appreciated. Edited April 20, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 I think I may have panicked over Rose . I took a couple of pics of what I found but am reluctant to post them incase they gross anyone out, but would love for someone to put my mind at ease . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Post them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 14, 2011 Author Share Posted April 14, 2011 Hope no one is eating What do you think , she has been producing something like these for the past 3 days. These 2 are some of todays and the most worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I'd take the chicken, a sample of her poo and go to the vet. She needs a strong antibiotic treatment for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Have checked her poops today and they seem fairly "normal" ish. She seems to be eating and drinking ok, but still has a bit of a cold. Am holding off on the vets for now, as she still seems bright eyed and bushy tailed. What do you think it is Claret? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 It looks like Cocci to me, but then I'm no vet; I'd take her to the vet as per my advice above - it isn't worth hanging about with this sort of thing. I'd be interested to hear what they think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted April 15, 2011 Share Posted April 15, 2011 I'd get a droppings sample tested pronto - you can contact Retfords and post them a sample. They come back quickly with the results and appropriate treatment, which they can either dispense or you can get from your vet. I've found them to be very reasonable and efficient in the past. If it were me, I'd get them on the higher dose of Herban, but unless you already have some that's a bit of useless information from me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 15, 2011 Author Share Posted April 15, 2011 Thanks guys, I have very reluctantly booked her in at the vets tomorrow afternoon . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Best thing, nice infection going on I would say. It's more than the normal loss of gut lining in a young hen. You would regret not acting sooner if she suddenly keels over. It's easy to put off when they look well but as you know they hide symptoms. It's not necessarily cocci. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 16, 2011 Author Share Posted April 16, 2011 Have just returned from the vets with Rosie. She didn't exactly confirm cocci. but she did examine the poo sample Rosie kindly deposited in the cat carrier (I did take one with me but left it in the car ). She said she could see some spores, not lots, but she couldn't quite confirm cocci. as their microscope wasn't powerful enough. I told her I had purchased some coxoid already and she told me about how it's not licensed for poultry, unsure of egg withdrawal period etc. (which I told her was about 28 days) said fine to use as long as I understood , then after the 7 days of treatment worm her with flubenvet (which I would have done sooner had I not just given my large tub of it away ), and if her sniffles aren't any better by monday or she is getting worse, take her back for some Tylan. So will start with the coxoid tomorrow and see how she goes, unfortunately that means Greta will have to be dosed aswell as I only have the one henhouse and can't separate them , which also means they will both be confined to barracks for the next 7 days . Annoying thing is her poos have been perfectly normal today and I also read this "by the fourth day blood begins to appear in the droppings. The greatest amount of blood appears by day five or six and by the eighth or ninth day the bird is either dead or on the way to recovery. Mortality is highest between the fourth and sixth days. Death may occur unexpectedly, owing to excessive blood loss. Birds that recover may develop a chronic illness as a result of a persistent cecal core. However, the core usually detaches itself by eight to ten days and is shed in the droppings." Would you start dosing with the coxoid anyway? Sorry for the long post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Well, it just gets worse . I think the sniffles may have developed into mycoplasma . I went to check on her this afternoon and she was doing the hunched thing with her tail down, so I went in the run for closer inspection and spotted a few bubbles in the eye which was a little watery and seems to be irritating her a bit. Poor Rosie, she doesn't seem to have had the best start with me and Greta is still giving her a bit of a hard time too . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Oh heck, I would give the coxoid because if she has myco her immunity will be low and she'll have trouble fighting the cocci if that's what it is. Don't despair the vet will give you some antibiotics and hopefully she'll soon be well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 I hope so Plum , I've grown rather attached to the little lady in the week I've had her. I phoned the vets and she said the same, continue with the coxoid and see how she is tomorrow. There has been no more blood in her poop, but they do seem rather watery with "normal" poop in there too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 They can get a secondary enteritis so watch out for that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Will do, thanks Plum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 Don't want to speak too soon but it seems that Rosie maybe on the mend , no more blood in the poo, sniffles have almost gone and haven't seen her doing the hunched thing lately. Greta seems to have perked up a bit too, now that she has someone to boss around, her abdomen is still swollen but she seems to be fighting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 Well whatever you are doing is working, must be such a relief for you. Your little Rosie and Greta are fighters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 20, 2011 Author Share Posted April 20, 2011 I have put coxoid in their water and have been giving them chopped lettuce, grapes, tomatoes and sweetcorn laced with probiotic powder and johnsons vit-min drops. I don't know if it's anything I am doing or if Rosie's immune system has just kicked in. But either way it is a relief . (so far ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 23, 2011 Author Share Posted April 23, 2011 Looks like I did speak too soon . Yesterday Rosie was sat on the perch hunched up, but when she saw me, she came running over to see if there were any treats . So I gave both her and Greta a few mealys. Couple of hrs later I went to check on the girls and it seems that the sniffles are back worse than before. Poor Rosie was stood with her beak open, clear fluid coming from her nostrils, shaking her head and bubbles in her eyes. She also had a scratch at her face as it must be irritating her. I also noticed just infront of her eye was a little swollen too. I immediately rang the vet but she was in surgery. Within the hour I checked on Rosie again, the bubbles in her eyes have gone and so has the swelling . Now I'm not sure whether her shaking her head and flicking some of the fluid from her nostrils into her eye has irritated her. So at the moment I think I am going mad but I have got some tylan from the vet. They're due to finish the coxoid tomorrow, so, should I give them a couple of days with just plain water or start the tylan straight away? *Sighs heavily* chickens eh! who'd hav'em? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken bark Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Sorry you are having such a tough time. I'd start her on the Tylan straight away. I hope she picks up. You are working hard to help her get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted April 23, 2011 Share Posted April 23, 2011 Just caught up on this - sorry to hear about your trials. The Tylan ought to sort it though if caught in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 24, 2011 Author Share Posted April 24, 2011 Have started with the Tylan today. Fingers crossed it will do the trick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henslaved Posted April 26, 2011 Author Share Posted April 26, 2011 After the first day of Tylan, Rosies' sniffles disappeared . On day three of Tylan and still no sign of the sniffles . Am going to keep her on it for a few more days just to make sure it's gone, her throat still sounds a bit rough. Her appetite is better than ever, she is eating like a horse. She went to bed tonight with the crop the size of a tennis ball . She is also not so nervous of Greta now, even caught them feeding from the same bowl for a few seconds today, that is until Greta raised her head and gave her the 'look'. Next stop Flubenvet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Good news but my vet says it takes a full 7 -10 day course or it comes back Naughty Greta - behave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
