witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 (edited) Hi- 1st issue has arrived! Silkie wasn't out and about with others when I checked about 30mins ago. I went in and discovered some bright red blood on her back end and floor. Have picked her up, bathed, sprayed with purple and antiseptic and put back. Couldn't see any 'wound' and couldn't see that had come out of her vent - but had what I'd say is a fairly 'bare' bum Could this just be from plucking out feathers or somethingelse?? Edited June 27, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Could it be from one of the others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarlettohara Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 If she is hiding away then maybe she is being bullied - this is the problem with silkies, because they look diferent you have to be very careful with them. Hope she is OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 I'll keep and eye on her - I hope she's not being bullied - they've lived together for ages at the breeder. I've put some water and pellets close to where she's been resting. No sign of blood on any of the others - but I'll keep an eye out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 just watched her have a fairly runny poo and it ended up with a bit of blood on the top. What might this be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Coccidiosis is always a concern when there is blood in poo with young stock. As you are new to this lark I would be inclined to er on the side of caution. Might be worth speaking to the breeder first to see if they have taken any precautions which could prevent cocci. If not I'd get a sample off for analysis without too much delay. The stress of the move can lower the defences and allow illness come to the fore. You can sit on it and observe but I sense that you are worried and this will hopefully either give you a diagnosis or some peace of mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Cheers - I'll watch and wait..................supplier feeds all chicks on medicated stuff and confirmed that they shouldn't have it. I know poo's can change quite a bit but I'll try and get hold of her (not easy woman to catch!) or even pop around later on with chick. I've just tried her with a mealworm - complete disinterest. This from the 1st to come and guzzle anything and everything out of my hand!!! She has a little bit of water and pecked at some mealies when I broke them and put them down in front of her She's very obviously NOT herself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Encourage her to eat and drink but keep stress to a minimum. You could try her on some probiotics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 just got hold of supplier - DEF should NOT be cocci. She's suggested tonic in the water and to pop around for some antibiotic drops a bit later...............fingers crossed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 just got hold of supplier - DEF should NOT be cocci. She's suggested tonic in the water and to pop around for some antibiotic drops a bit later...............fingers crossed! Giving antibiotics willy nilly is not a good idea and she shouldn't be doling out antibiotic drops to people (I presume she is not a vet) It could also impact of future treatment if required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 just got some probiotic yog and a bit of tonic'd water down her. I'll keep watching Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarlettohara Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I wouldn't faff around - go and get some coxoid, anywhere that sells bird or poultry stuff usually have it - about £10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Don't overdo the yoghurt, in small amounts it is fine but they can't digest dairy and in large quantities will give her the squits. I agree that you need to be a bit more proactive. Time is of the essence with youngsters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scarlettohara Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 Chucky Mama is right they go downhill very quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I agree with the last two posters. There are also legal implications regarding the doling out of possibly inappropriate antibiotics to treat an illness that might not be present, by a person not licensed to prescribe. I'd give them all some Coxoid to be on the safe side because the breeder can't know for sure that it isn't coccidiosis, and if one has it then it will spread. *not licensed for use on poultry in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 just back from long trip for Coxiod - now the water bowls. I'll pass on the anit-Bs and just it's just stress ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I hope you see an improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I'd also get Coxoid asap It should be Cocci but it still could be, the medicated crumb could have been out of date or given in conjunction with something that affected the medication - i wouldnt risk it, hours are key with cocci not days so swift action is essential Put it this way if its not cocci the Coxoid wont do them any harm at all. After the 7 days of Coxoid give some probiotics to settle their tummies though I also wouldnt give antibiotics at this stage Cross posted but left as its still valid advice Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 thanks for all advice! Should I leave her moping in the corner or put her in a dog crate (in pen/house) I just want to cuddle her better!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 If its cocci then its quite infectious but you are treating them all so she should be ok with the others Do monitor her to ensure she drinks ok If you have to then separate her off so you can make sure she is drinking never give Coxoid neat even if she doesnt seem to be recovering as quickly as you hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 I gave her the 1st bit of Coxoid water by dropper to make sure she had some. How often should I do this to make sure she's had it? 30mins/1hr etc until cooptime ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daphne Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 I've found when treating for cocci with coxoid that there was no problem with the ill chick drinking. I'd observe them and compare the ill chick with the others and then maybe you can save yourself some hassle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 It's a horrible 3rd day with the chooks - so lovely yesterday and now so full of worry. I've always had lots of pets but never a baby get sick before............horrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witzend Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 She's been stood with her head bowed for a while but 5.10 had a little drink on her own and pecked up a few mealworm crushed bits that I threw her direction - others distracted by their own handful!!! Now she's back to standing (not crouching as this morning) with her head down as if asleep standing up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 If in doubt take her to the vet. In the meantime keep her supported with food and water. Keep food as close to what she is used to as possible within reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
