Hate, Hate, HATE my varifocals! 1 2

[Chickabee 0]

Yes it did become CJD

[PoachedPlease 0]

But..if any animal based protein can carry a TSE, then our chickens shouldn't be allowed to free range as live insects can also be hosts? Unless carnivores stop eating meat won't there always be a risk?

 

confused.

 

 

BSE happened because a herbivore (cow) was fed meat (sheep), which would never happen naturally,so screwing up the food chain and natural immunity etc. chickens are omnivores and natural scavengers so far more able to deal with the associated ABP microbes etc.

 

I do wonder if there are any scientists working in DEFRA!

 

Btw. I read the EU reg - and pet food is highlited as not being fed to farm animals for the same reason, some of our members should take note.

 

Xx

[kentuckyfried 0]

But..if any animal based protein can carry a TSE, then our chickens shouldn't be allowed to free range as live insects can also be hosts? Unless carnivores stop eating meat won't there always be a risk?

 

Sort of. except when chooks scavenge in our gardens, there doesn't tend to be anything disease causing. I guess the worry here is that if the worms are fed something infected, they could then infect the chickens as they are added into the environment rather than naturally being there.

[PoachedPlease 0]

Ooh it's all about the food chain isn't it. Keeping it as natural as possible. So even if mealworms are natural their diet might not be, In which case theres a market for organic mealworms. who would have thought it?

 

Mind you the regs did say that the mealworms coming into the country have to be microwaved in order to kill the worrisome bacteria, so prob a very low risk.

 

Thanks omleteers, back to corn for the chickees.

 

[PoachedPlease 0]

Btw I realise I have made a complete 180 degree turn on my original view...but it was the effect of looking at one of the dFRA websites. There were photos of various foodstuffs that are imported and legislated for. Including dog chews. One is a well known chew called paddy whack sold in the uk and I recognised it, anyway it is from china and is actually dried cattle penises. Who knew??.?. What else is in our food??

[The Dogmother 580]

Pizzle Sticks, or dried cattle penises are a common dog treat; I just buy British ones rather than imports.

[gavclojak 1]

Pizzle sticks......hells bells, I pray my dog has never eaten one of those bad boys!!!!

[Chickabee 0]

I don't really see a problem with dogs chewing dried cattle parts. They love them, and they're good for their teeth. I eat kidneys, hearts, pancreas, liver (sorry vegetarians) tongue, cheeks. Not every day, but I think you probably get my point. I think if you are going to kill an animal to eat it, then waste as little as possible

[PoachedPlease 0]

I wonder how many they would sell if they stated the organ on the packet! It just says .....beef roasted in its own juices and 'not for human consumption'.

[gavclojak 1]

It just says .....beef roasted in its own juices and 'not for human consumption'.

 

Now I live in London and I have heard it called a few things before but have never heard it referred to as "beef roasted in its own juices !!!!

[The Dogmother 580]

Segue-ing off slightly; my dogs are both raw fed, and I wouldn't dream of feeding them anything that I wasn't sure of the provenance.

[Chickabee 0]

That's brilliant dogmother. I would do the same, it's by far the best way to feed your dogs. There's a programme on channel 5 tonight about what's in our dog food, do watch it if you can. Unfortunately guide dogs are only allowed the food they are prescribed, but apparently years ago they used to feed them raw chicken

[The Dogmother 580]

Thanks Chickabee, that programme is talked about on the lurcher forum; I will watch it tomorrow evening when I'm ironing... my TV for the week.