buffie Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I found out recently that our beloved green and blacks had been sold but I have now found out who bought it.... Founded in 1991 by husband-and-wife team Craig Sams (chair of the U.K.’s Soil Association) and Jo Fairley, the company sold an 80 percent stake in the company in 1999 to an investor group. Cadbury has owned a 5 percent share of Green & Black’s since 2002 and also owns the Snapple and Nantucket Nectars brands. Neither the management team nor Green & Black’s commitment to fair trade sources will change, according to the companies. “Cadbury Schweppes intends Green & Blacks to run as a stand-alone business, so it’s very much business as usual,” spokeswoman Debbie Feickert said So mystery solved it's Cadbury Schweppes. Just thought you'd like to know BBx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley-Jean Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Thanks for that information Buffie. Lets hope that "Cadbury Schweppes" remain in the background and don allow the £ or $ to compromise the G & B's ethical stance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 As long as we keep buying it in large enough quantities, I'm sure they'll leave it alone! I'm doing my bit . . .are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 of course and the ice cream is going down well BBx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I can't remember now where I saw that Buff, but I was shocked too. So long as it stays the same. Now I think about it, there was an article somewhere about the people who founded G&B, their life and how much they've made from selling it. can't remember for the life of me where I saw it though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paola Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Never tried it Will try it and do my bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 yes if we eat enough and tell them why we chose it, then it has to stay the same. Hope Lesley and Kate will join us BBxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 OH had a whole box on Sunday! He hasn't eaten them all yet though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Better get in there while you can Ginette Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedhopper Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Dont you find this ethical stance strange though (im all for it myself but..) The ethical stance still stands with G&B but they are part owned by an non ethical company, Cadbury Schweppes, therefor the money you put into buying G&B products helps fund the latter. Its the same with Bodyshop selling out to L'Oreal, and for that reason i dont shop there anymore. Any feelings ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted June 20, 2006 Author Share Posted June 20, 2006 Oh yes I agree but at least the company's are allowed to continue in the same fashion and not absorbed. I have the same problem with unilever and masterfoods but I buy very limited products connected to such companys so I can live with myself. BBx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I have to admit, I'd find it difficult to justify buying G&B's now. With profits going to a company like CS, I've lost the main reason for buying it - it's lovely chocolate, yes, but is quite pricey, so it's just putting a few more pennies into CS's coffers.... I feel the same about the Body Shop now, much as I love their products, I cannot bear to give money to Loreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacedhopper Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Oh yes I agree but at least the company's are allowed to continue in the same fashion and not absorbed. I have the same problem with unilever and masterfoods but I buy very limited products connected to such companys so I can live with myself. BBx It is soooo difficult though isnt it Buffie, these companies swamp the market with all kinds of products, and it makes it virtually impossible to avoid them, you have to be so careful, i usually look for the little bunny logo on products, but trying to get my OH to change certain products is near on impossible, comfort zone isnt it ? like conditioner and things you get use to products and dont like change, especially if some products react against your skin or the like. Plus due to swamping the market they can make their products cheaper, especially in the likes of Wilkos and Home Bargains therefor more people buy them, making these companies even bigger and stronger, more exposure is required to what actually goes into creating these products, especially the testing on animals and even to the inclusion of animal by products in these items. The big supermarkets need to stock more ethical and environmentally friendly products, they need to be made aware how there massive profit margins are killing our planet and the creatures on it. X J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunee1 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Funny you mention that at THE shop we have been avioding stocking G&B's because of just this reason, but in the search for other organic choc nothing seems to match in yummyness, then the other day we heard the same news you all have and so we've decided to stock it . first order placed today yum yum...mind you it was good trying them all out. And while we're on the chockie subject has anyone tried Booja Booja chocs uuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmm...oh my gooodness we stock those too...a wee pricey but worth it every time...if people scoff at the price in the shop we give them a sample and more often than not they take it all back what they've said or buy some Heres the web site it does'nt do the choc justice which is a shame coz they're amazing http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=booja+booja&btnG=Search&meta= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieP Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 OH told me G&B was owned by Cadbury and I denied it hotly. Humble pie (or chocolate bars) all round tonight then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I feel like lobbying a company like Tesco which keeps announcing HUGE profits. Why don't they use their money to set up ethical trading policies? For example, ALL coffee and tea should be fairly traded - we can't grow it locally and I feel sure that if companies meet the FAIRTRADE requirements they would say so. Why would we trade with anyone not meeting these basic requirements? These supermarkets should jump on the Fairtrade/local produce/Green (recycling, reduced packaging etc*) bandwagon. I think Sainsbury's is, but Tesco seems totally against these ideas! I'm still wearing my 'Make Poverty History' wrist band! * to get me back on topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieP Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I agree totally Ginette, but do shop at Tesco occasionally. Their organic meat range is HUGE, reasonably priced and in recyclable plastic trays. They also offer to recycle their plastic bags into garden fuirniture for local hospitals etc. if people can be bothered to take them back to the shop. Their Ecover products are the cheapest you can get anywhere. I try to support local ethical businesses, but sometimes it can't be helped. What really annoys me more than anything else is seeing people automatically go for pre packed stuff and the fact that bags/containers are plastic and not paper. Drives me nuts. I would like to see money off for every bag people re-use, say 10p or something nominal. The large supermarkets could afford it! I think I'll have to join the WI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 OH told me G&B was owned by Cadbury and I denied it hotly. Humble pie (or chocolate bars) all round tonight then! Just don't say anything, and in 6 months time, when the subject comes up again, make sure you say it was YOU that told him in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I would like to see money off for every bag people re-use, say 10p or something nominal. The large supermarkets could afford it! I think supermarkets should just stop providing plastic bags. I now keep my beautiful Waitrose bags (very strong fabric-types) in the car and use them wherever I shop. People always used to provide their own bags and if supermarkets only sold fabric ones (such as the Jute sort) we would remember to take them with us. No-one could afford £2.50 (a random guess) per carrier! Those of us with cars could use boxes instead. I heard recently that a poor country like Tanzania (I can't be sure I've remembered the right one!) has totally banned plastic carrier bags in a bid to be greener. If a country like that can be so bold, then why can't we? It puts us to humiliating shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I suggested years ago to Tesco, that they should phase out the nasty carrier bags, and replace them with the old fashioned, recyclable big, thick brown paper bags. Got ignored, of course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Sometime in the early 90s Safeway did the brown paper bags for a while - but then they went back to plastic bags again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 Sometime in the early 90s Safeway did the brown paper bags for a while - but then they went back to plastic bags again. Safeways always had paper bags when I was wee, and you would think now, when the majority of people come in cars, that it would a fantastic marketing ploy, if nothing else, to re-introduce the brown bags, while pushing the 'bag for life' to the people who don't have cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 I agree - the marketing possibilities are huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 IKEA now seem to be doing something like that - they sell those ENORMOUS blue bags for 25p, saying that they can take the equivalent of 5 carrier bags (which would cost 25p). I think that they will charge you 25p if you fill 5 carrier bags rather than getting a blue re-useable one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted June 21, 2006 Author Share Posted June 21, 2006 (edited) I have hemp bags for shopping and then have only get carriers as they become my bin bags. I have environmentally friendly nappy bags for the dog poop and wonder if you can get the same for bin bags anyone know? I justify G&B's by not having much really, there is a fair trade chocolate called Divine. Our cleaner living policy and my hen detective work is really opening my eyes...I spend ages searching through product info. BBx Edited June 21, 2006 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
