mountainboarddude Posted September 7, 2008 Share Posted September 7, 2008 does anybody know where you can buy Ivermectin eprinex and panacur from, because i have not seen it for sale anywhere. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchHazel Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Eprinex is only available if prescribed by a vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainboarddude Posted September 8, 2008 Author Share Posted September 8, 2008 ok thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 You can get eprinex here http://www.wormers.co.uk/cgi-bin/sh000001.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fwww%2ewormers%2eco%2euk%2facatalog%2findex%2ehtml&WD=eprinex&SHOP=%20&PN=Online_Catalogue_Eprinex_3%2ehtml%23aEPR#aEPR You just have to tell them it's for your cow. You can get panacur from the same suppliers both without prescription Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Hello again Mat I answered your question about Panacur on another thread; good to see someone doing their research. Take care not to overdo the worming dosing though. I use both products (**not licenced for use on poultry in the UK**) on my girls, but never at the same time. I leave a week or two between the last dose of Panacur and dosing them with Eprinex, and usually do it in the winter when they aren't laying. Please note that although most vets will recommend these products for use on poultry, this use is not licenced in the UK, so we have to be careful to use disclaimers whenever we mention them on the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 You just have to tell them it's for your cow. They may ask for herd details, holding numbers etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 If you want to get it on the internet, it's up to you, personally I am happier getting it from my vet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 You just have to tell them it's for your cow. They may ask for herd details, holding numbers etc. They didn't ask me but wanted to know what other pets I had. Claret is right. It's one thing getting all these meds but another knowing how and when to use them. For that, this forum's advice and that of your vet's is invaluable if not downright necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debbie26pet Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 hi what is the withdrawl of eggs, and what does each one treat thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 8, 2008 Share Posted September 8, 2008 Debbie, egg withdrawl is when you withdraw the eggs from human consumption while you are treating the hens with some medications. The general rule of thumb is to withdraw eggs from the start of treatment and until one week after the last dose, but it does vary - it's best to ask your vet when they prescribe it. I'm sorry, but I don't understand the last part of your question; can you retype it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Speckled Hen Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 and what does each one treat thanks Eprinex is a pour-on for cattle. It treats roundworm, mites and lice in chickens. Panacur is a bendazole with a similar coverage to Flubenvet. They both treat worms. You have to double dose Flubenvet if you are treating gapeworm. None of these drugs has a described action against tapeworm though I suspect that flubenvet does work in this respect .... just not proved by the manufacturer. Flubenvet is the only one with a poultry licence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 and what does each one treat thanks Eprinex is a pour-on for cattle. It treats roundworm, mites and lice in chickens. Panacur is a bendazole with a similar coverage to Flubenvet. They both treat worms. You have to double dose Flubenvet if you are treating gapeworm. None of these drugs has a described action against tapeworm though I suspect that flubenvet does work in this respect .... just not proved by the manufacturer. Flubenvet is the only one with a poultry licence. Flubenvet does in fact treat large tapeworm. As with gapeworm, the dose is doubled and consequently there is an egg withdrawal period during the treatment and for one week after. Strictly speaking you would need the permission of a vet to administer this. Panacur and Eprinex both have egg withdrawal periods as they are **not licensed for use in poultry in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainboarddude Posted September 9, 2008 Author Share Posted September 9, 2008 thanks for all of your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hils78 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 You can get Panacur from Pets at Home in a paste made for dogs - tell them its for your dog! you syringe it into the beak. I did my lot recently & found it easy to do single handed. The paste actually smelt minty! There are markers on the syringe which help you dose. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Probably best to check with your vet before administering this as the strength (18.75%) is almost double that of the Small Animal Suspension (10%) which is normally prescribed. *Panacur is not licensed for use in poultry in UK. Don't forget that there is an egg withdrawal period after administering Panacur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 Blimey Hils, that's a really strong dosage... I hope that you withdrew the eggs after giving them that May I suggest to anyone else thinking of using this product that they check with their vet first; it's all very well using the 10% solution (** not licenced for use on poultry in the UK* as vets have recommended it, but it's another thing entirely buying something with the same ingredient but at a much higher concentration. I don't want to sound harsh here, just advise to exercise caution *Opps sorry, cross-posted there Egluntine.. shouldn't take so long to type Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debbie26pet Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 You can get Panacur from Pets at Home in a paste made for dogs - tell them its for your dog! you syringe it into the beak. I did my lot recently & found it easy to do single handed. The paste actually smelt minty! There are markers on the syringe which help you dose. Hope this helps. what length of time did u withdrawl eggs for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 You can get Panacur from Pets at Home in a paste made for dogs - tell them its for your dog! you syringe it into the beak. I did my lot recently & found it easy to do single handed. The paste actually smelt minty! There are markers on the syringe which help you dose. Hope this helps. what length of time did u withdrawl eggs for? Debbie, if you read the subsequent posts, you will see that we wouldn't recommend using this product on chickens as it's at a very high concentration. It is made for large dogs, not small animals like the 10% solution is. If you do use it, I wouldn't guarantee how your hens would react and can't even begin to imagine what the egg withdrawl period would be - the concentration of active ingredient is so high that I think it would take ages to get it out of the hen's system and therefrore make the eggs safe to eat. Having a higher concentration of the active ingredient doesn't necessarily mean that it will just work better - it could possibly make it unsafe to use on animals other than those it is recommended for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hils78 Posted September 9, 2008 Share Posted September 9, 2008 It wasn't the full high dose one I did a bit of research on it.....goes & looks for box....can't find it but I know for sure it wasnt' the high % one! I'll have to look up the dosage too - all I remember is that is was half a notch per bird. Egg withdrawal was not applicable to me as they're not blimmin laying yet grrr! but my old boss (who I reluctantly contacted about this) said a 10 day withdrawal & the product I used 'should' be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainboarddude Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 well i think that one of my hens may have gapewrom, but i am going to the vets with another of my hens as she is not laying and has been losing her feathers for a few months now, so i will see if she can prescribe me any. thank you for all of your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Good idea. Let us know how you get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJuff Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 How much Ivomec Eprinex should I drop onto my chooks? They vary in weight, the smallest weighs half what the biggest hen does? Any advice? I wouldn't like to overdose them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted September 16, 2008 Share Posted September 16, 2008 My vet's instructions were .25ml per 2kg of bird. Dropped onto the skin at the back of the neck i.e. under the feathers. He did say that it's not necessary to be too precise so long as you're not using humugeous amounts - I was rather glad of that as some of my tinier bantams weight less then 500g! ** This product is not licenced for use on poultry in the UK** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
