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[badgerbluebadger]

Almost started a fight in Nandos last night!

 

I should have done my research before we turned up but when we arrived I asked if the chicken was free range.

 

The response was rather rude 'of course not - none of Nandos have free range chicken' I felt as if I was asking a silly question and walked out. My friends were horrified as I have not seen them since having my chickens over 8 months.

 

I did go back in and had a veggie burger as I wanted to see my friends but I had to sit there while my husband yes husband and friends all had the chicken.

 

One I am upset at the fact that my husband ate the chicken to be polite but secondly the fact that even though I had a veggie burger I was still funding bad treatment to chickens.

 

My husband and I have had a rather large debate this morning and he has agreed to never go to Nandos again but I still feel bad.

[Egluntyne]

Sorry your evening was spoilt.

 

Maybe a letter to Nandos re a) the rudeness of whoever answered your question and b) the possibility of changing their policy re sourcing chickens might be in order.

[badgerbluebadger]

I think you may be right - seeing my girls playing in the garden today makes me realise that all animals have a right to a good life!

[Janty]

We visited a rather nice restaurant last year and I fancied one of the chicken dishes. I asked the waitress if the chicken was free range and she replied very condescendingly that she could easily tell me that the chicken was free range and that I wouldn't know the difference but no it wasn't.

 

I asked for our coats to be returned and asked for the bill for what we had had so far minus the condescending attitude. I also asked to see the manager. Husband was so embarrassed.

[Valkyrie]

Well done Badgerbb and Janty. I think Egluntine is right - follow up with a letter.

[A chickychickychick-ENN!!]

You wouldn't be the only one to write in to them. Here's a thread on the Chicken Out! HFW website:

 

http://www.chickenout.tv/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=226

 

I would be interested in how much light and fresh air they get.

[Guest]

Good for you. I'm forever having a whinge in shops. As said in a previous post my partner flatly refuse to go shopping with me now

 

Today i was in the Co-op with a pile of shopping. Not a sniff of a shopping bag. In the end i had to ask. That will be 2p!!!!! I told them to keep their shopping bag. The cheek. And it's not as if i don't recycle all my plastic bags.

 

As said good for you. I had a moan in Sainsburys the other day. Ended up with a ten pound voucher as a result. Us Brits don't do enough moaning in my estimation. Quite happy to sit back and let the world go by, at our expense and peril. Mind you, i do have French ancestory. Perhaps that is what put my gob into action I admire them, they don't put up with any nonsense.

[Guest]

have a look at THIS THREAD

[Guest]

Good for you. I'm forever having a whinge in shops. As said in a previous post my partner flatly refuse to go shopping with me now

 

Today i was in the Co-op with a pile of shopping. Not a sniff of a shopping bag. In the end i had to ask. That will be 2p!!!!! I told them to keep their shopping bag. The cheek. And it's not as if i don't recycle all my plastic bags.

 

As said good for you. I had a moan in Sainsburys the other day. Ended up with a ten pound voucher as a result. Us Brits don't do enough moaning in my estimation. Quite happy to sit back and let the world go by, at our expense and peril. Mind you, i do have French ancestory. Perhaps that is what put my gob into action I admire them, they don't put up with any nonsense.

 

sorry Damien but I think charging for bags is a damn good idea, might make people think twice before getting even more bags to go into landfill. We use our old ones and we have a few of those great jute shopping bags.

[Guest]

Good for you. I'm forever having a whinge in shops. As said in a previous post my partner flatly refuse to go shopping with me now

 

Today i was in the Co-op with a pile of shopping. Not a sniff of a shopping bag. In the end i had to ask. That will be 2p!!!!! I told them to keep their shopping bag. The cheek. And it's not as if i don't recycle all my plastic bags.

 

As said good for you. I had a moan in Sainsburys the other day. Ended up with a ten pound voucher as a result. Us Brits don't do enough moaning in my estimation. Quite happy to sit back and let the world go by, at our expense and peril. Mind you, i do have French ancestory. Perhaps that is what put my gob into action I admire them, they don't put up with any nonsense.

 

sorry Damien but I think charging for bags is a damn good idea, might make people think twice before getting even more bags to go into landfill. We use our old ones and we have a few of those great jute shopping bags.

 

So you do have some then? Dress it up anyway you like, you're still adding to landfill. And if the jute bags were so good, then surely, you wouldn't have any plastic bags? I've got various jute bags, just forget to put them into the car when going shopping. I make no apologies, life is busy, and i have ten thousand other things on my mind to think about. Supermarkets are the biggest hypocrites with all their disposable plastic packaging etc, and therefore don't want to think themselves self-righteous in charging me 2p for a bag.

[Guest]

yes I have some plastic ones, sometimes I forget to take my jute ones but I'm only human Damien

[Guest]

yes I have some plastic ones, sometimes I forget to take my jute ones but I'm only human Damien

 

LOL xx Me too mate x

[Minnie the Moocher]

I carry a foldaway bag inside my handbag. I also have a boot full of jute bags.

 

If I forget to take the jute ones in for a big shop I usually go back to the car (abandoning the trolley temporarily) and collect them. It's no big deal.

 

I did once have the two Little Moochers with me and they were on top whinging form. I couldn't face going back to the car with them so I used the store's plastic bags, then felt that everyone was staring at me for being so wasteful!

 

The real problem for me isn't the carrier bags so much, but the excess packaging that has to be recycled/disposed of once you unpack the shopping at home. It really is disgraceful.

[Ana's flock]

I bought this Onya bag, it folds into a little fist-sized lump and has a clip so you clip it to the handle of your handbag so it's always with you. They're made out of silk, very resistant, with nice colours and come very handy for last-minute shopping or farm shopping for fruit & veg.

 

For the big weekly shop we go to Costco and they don't have bags anyway, just recycle cardboard or wooden boxes.

 

I got cheesed off with M&S just before Christmas when, after spending an unusual amount of money (let's say it was between £100 and £200 ) they still charged me for the 3 or 4 bags I needed - OK if they'd have told me before hand but I only found out when I looked at the receipt!!! Daylight robbery! Now I make a point of only buying what I can fit in the Onya It saves me a lot of £££!

 

I still have a chip on my shoulder about the excessive packaging of some foods, particularly when it makes it so difficult to unwrap - one of these days I might collect it and take it back to the shop for 'recycling'

[Minnie the Moocher]

The supermarkets are obliged to take back packaging and you can hand it back to them at the checkout, but who wants to be glared at by the rest of the queue?!

 

After I've unpacked the shopping, there's always a pile of plastic and cardboard to be dealt with. I hate it.

[Ana's flock]

The supermarkets are obliged to take back packaging and you can hand it back to them at the checkout, but who wants to be glared at by the rest of the queue?!

 

After I've unpacked the shopping, there's always a pile of plastic and cardboard to be dealt with. I hate it.

Really...?

 

So I guess if lots of us started taking our unwanted packaging back to them, eventually they'd get the message...

[Minnie the Moocher]

The supermarkets are obliged to take back packaging and you can hand it back to them at the checkout, but who wants to be glared at by the rest of the queue?!

 

After I've unpacked the shopping, there's always a pile of plastic and cardboard to be dealt with. I hate it.

Really...?

 

So I guess if lots of us started taking our unwanted packaging back to them, eventually they'd get the message...

 

Yes, really! Tis the law.

 

Sorry Badger, we have gone off-topic:

Pizza Express use free-range eggs (not sure about the chicken). Could you persuade your friends to meet there next time?

[chelsea]

Good for you badger-blue-badger! Im totally with you!

 

And what really bugs me is why shops/retailers have to "confuse" people by putting "Grade A farm assured chicken" - since when have you seen grade B??!! Do they think we are stupid or summat?

 

(trying to persuade some customers that grade A is something special)

 

I complained to Ideal World the shopping channel about this as they kept harping on about Grade A chicken like it was the bees knees. (not that I buy anything from there )

 

I love complaining.

[A chickychickychick-ENN!!]

I have an onya bag too. So light, so functional! I love mine.

 

They come in backpack or satchel form or some others. I have a satchel.

 

http://www.onyabags.co.uk/

[Janty]

Slightly off track as this is about a supermarket but a good thing to do is to get involved with the Tesco online surveys. You get clubcard points for insulting them. Not all the surveys give you the opportunity to have a go but a lot do. They ask for your opinions on Tesco in general and you can let rip about poor practices with animals and meat etc.

 

Another thing which drives hubby nuts :

 

If asked why I eat only free range or organic chicken I talk about the chickens having a more natural environment and then bring the conversation to an end by saying 'and why would I want to eat cheap chicken? The conditions that they are kept in basically result in them being basted in their own excrement prior to slaughter. Mmmm...tasty!'

 

Please excuse my ramblings...it's 7.05am and I've only just got up.

 

[badgerbluebadger]

Thank you for your support - sometimes I think I am mad but if everyone chips in things will change.

 

I used to eat cheaper meat years and years ago before I was educated in the conditions animals are kept. I just hope people will continue care about animal warfare and what rubbish they are eating!

 

I have now got my work colleagues and friends to change to buying free range eggs as after a box of my girls eggs they were all convinced.

 

Here in London with a very small garden I try my best by growing vegetables and keeping my girls.

 

I Just know one day I will have a big enough garden to have a mini small holding and live the good life dream!

[Sunshine]

I would love to make a fuss about how meat served in restaurants has been raised, but i don't have the guts! So well done to everyone who does.

 

I have just come back from a night in Llandudno and last night we ate in the hotel restaurant. On the menu was chicken, beef and lamb, plus a few veggie options. The menu had some ramble about how they try to use organic and local produce(I am very cinical about packaging labels etc). Yet when they decribed the food it just said Welsh pork which doesn't say anything about how the meat was raised. I always look at packaging in shops as it is so misleading most of the time. So whilst i was in Llandudno i ate no meat because i refuse to eat meat unless it states clearly it is free range. However as i don't like much veggie food it often means i have vegetables and potatoes. Also pasta is sometimes a no no because it might contain egg.

 

I realised whilst i was away that i would much rather stay in and cook the same meal that i maybe would have had out but with the ingredients that i am happy to eat.

 

Emma

[Janty]

I realised whilst i was away that i would much rather stay in and cook the same meal that i maybe would have had out but with the ingredients that i am happy to eat.

 

Emma

 

I know exactly what you mean.

[Looney]

I stayed at a well-to-do hotel in Southwold for work and at breakfast I enquired whether the eggs were free-range. The menu boasted about supporting local economy and sourcing locally etc but no mention of free range.

 

The waitress didn't know, went to the kitchen, came back and said no they weren't.

 

I said, in that case I won't have an egg thanks, just beans,mushrooms etc.

 

You should have seen the looks on the faces of the people I was sat with! I hadn't made a fuss but they all looked very sheepish and guilty and still went ahead and ordered eggs!! One person asked if I minded! It's their decision their conscience.

 

Ho hum.