Eglu Cube Coop For Sale

[AJuff]

One of the latest press releases from One NorthEast;

 

An egg farm which joined forces with similar businesses across the North East following changes in legislation has received funding to help it cope with the extra demand. Lintz Hall Farm, in Burnopfield has been awarded £457,000 from One North East’s Rural Development Programme to expand and modernise its egg processing, grading and packing facilities. Six new jobs will be created and eight businesses will benefit through a collaborative agreement.

 

At the last British Egg Industry Council (BEIC) subscriber meeting it was agreed that there will be no Lion accredited birds in conventional cages from January 2012, so retailers know that Lion eggs will be produced in a colony system.

 

So what is a colony system when it's at home? What are they supporting?

[Space Chick]

Its another name for enriched cages

 

Sounds nicer though, to fool consumers no doubt

 

http://www.thepoultrysite.com/poultrynews/19078/jansens-first-layer-colony-system-opened

[WarrensWorld]

Wouldn't you know it more weasle words. Is it a rechargeable Battery..........

[Happy-Mama]

had a look at the link and the pics look awful poor chickens

[Chook n Boo Mum]

18 birds per square metre (http://www.jpe.org/Layer_systems/87/Comfort_2_aviary_system.html)

 

I am gobsmacked

 

Sha x

[Lavenders_Blue]

Yep, it's just a fancy battery cage

 

I think this quote from the page Sha linked to takes the biscuit...

 

"Very important in this are the animal welfare and the natural behaviour of the flock. Healthy birds with a good condition will produce the maximum number of eggs. "

 

I fail to see how 18 birds per sq m can mean good animal welfare and natural behaviour of the flock???

[A chickychickychick-ENN!!]

So who's starting the petition then?

[Space Chick]

Using that logic, I could have 252 chickens in my WIR

 

I reckon, another couple more than my 12 and I'd be at a maximum capacity.

 

Its shocking when you think what these poor babies go through so that Joe Public can have cheap eggs

[redhotchick]

How big is a standard Eglu run? 2 metres by 1 metre? Not far off anyway.

36 chickens? No way!

I must have got that wrong

[WitchHazel]

Obviously it's not as good as a free range system, but it's a great improvement on the battery system and a lot of thought has gone in to things to improve the quality of life for the hens.

 

I found some of it a bit hard to picture, but a lot of thought has gone in to thinking about the perches and the nest boxes.

 

The reality is that the volume of eggs consumed n the UK (including those which are used in the food we buy rather than as actual eggs) could not be met by free range hens. I don't mean just current free range, I mean I suspect it wouldn't be possible to accomodate enough free range hens to produce the number of eggs necessary. Land would be used which could instead be used for other forms of food production.

 

And if we couldn't satisy the demand, then even more eggs - from battery hens outside the UK - would be used.

 

Consumers say one thing, but their buying behaviour says something else. Many years ago there was a public outcry over the poor standards of welfare for pigs. British farmers had to comply with much stricter welfare standards compared to other European countries, and consumers rewarded them by switching to cheap Danish and Dutch bacon. Teh british farmer couldn't compete on price because the welfare standards required were so different. Bear that in mind next time you are putting a pack of Danepak bacon in yout trolley.

 

Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now.

 

Please don't misunderstand me, personally I only eat free range eggs, and I avoid battery egg produce where it is possible to do so. I abhor battery farming; I think it is a vile practice, and I don't really like the enriched cages either. But I do think that anything which moves hens from a battery system to a kinder system is a good step.

[..lay a little egg for me]

Obviously it's not as good as a free range system, but it's a great improvement on the battery system and a lot of thought has gone in to things to improve the quality of life for the hens.

 

I found some of it a bit hard to picture, but a lot of thought has gone in to thinking about the perches and the nest boxes.

 

The reality is that the volume of eggs consumed n the UK (including those which are used in the food we buy rather than as actual eggs) could not be met by free range hens. I don't mean just current free range, I mean I suspect it wouldn't be possible to accomodate enough free range hens to produce the number of eggs necessary. Land would be used which could instead be used for other forms of food production.

 

And if we couldn't satisy the demand, then even more eggs - from battery hens outside the UK - would be used.

 

Consumers say one thing, but their buying behaviour says something else. Many years ago there was a public outcry over the poor standards of welfare for pigs. British farmers had to comply with much stricter welfare standards compared to other European countries, and consumers rewarded them by switching to cheap Danish and Dutch bacon. Teh british farmer couldn't compete on price because the welfare standards required were so different. Bear that in mind next time you are putting a pack of Danepak bacon in yout trolley.

 

Sorry, I'll get off my soapbox now.

 

Please don't misunderstand me, personally I only eat free range eggs, and I avoid battery egg produce where it is possible to do so. I abhor battery farming; I think it is a vile practice, and I don't really like the enriched cages either. But I do think that anything which moves hens from a battery system to a kinder system is a good step.

 

 

Well said WitchHazel. Your thoughts confirm my belief that there are too many people in the world and particularly in developed countries for us ever to be able to meet the animal welfare/environmental standards we would like to achieve.

[Charlottechicken]

Well said WitchHazel

[A chickychickychick-ENN!!]

Absolutely. We're too selfish a species to slow our breeding down though.

[Charlottechicken]

Absolutely. We're too selfish a species to slow our breeding down though.

 

But there are a lot of things we could do to discourage large families, such as only paying benefits out for the first two children. Families on benefit (non working and working benefits) are on large amounts of money because of the amount of children. Does anyone remember the family who became infamous because of Wife Swap? The Bardsleys received benefits totalling £38k per year and had eight children. We also pay out disability benefits to people who have overeaten and now cannot contribute to society because of all the associated health problems, so we give them more money to buy more food. It's madness, we should be educating, not throwing money at people. I've actually had an obese person tell me that healthy food is too expensive

 

Personally, I would like to see all animal products rationed (not practical or possible I know), as we (the public in general) no longer have any idea of portion size in this country and no idea of the work that goes into raising an animal for meat or dairy. We happily buy cheap meat products to graze on whilst shopping, and are excited by the prospect of a 24oz steak in a pub, despite the fact that there's enough meat to feed a family of four for a hearty Sunday lunch.