The_eggwards_family Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Sorry if this sounds like a stupid question I was wondering how you know whether your chooks are getting enough of the worming treatment. I have put 3 scoops in the grub container on top of the food (we have 3 chooks and it says 1 scoop per chook) on the day we got them, then just added another 3 scoops for the next day on top of the pellets that were still in there. But, how do you know if each bird is getting enough, and Im not entirely sure whether it hasnt all sunk to the bottom of the grub container so they havent had any. Plus I think my DH topped up the layers pellets too today and did day 3's dose of verm-x on the top again so Im not sure what's going on to be honest Am I doing it right and can I be sure that they are getting enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 No-one else is going to admit to using Verm-x here I don't use the pellets for the very reasons you state - I just don't trust that they each get enough of a dose. I use the liquid you add to water each day so I can be sure they're all getting enough. Sorry that's no use whatsoever to you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_eggwards_family Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 No-one else is going to admit to using Verm-x here oo, why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollie333 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 When i first got my girls i used Verm-X, in the liquid form. Hey! I admitted it. Some people swear by it, but in my honest opinion, Flubenvet is a lot better, and minds the hassle of 'are they getting enough', and costs little money because it lasts longer. Theres many places that sell it, but i'm afraid local Pets at Home don't. You can buy it online *Here*, and *Here* Goodluck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramble Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 No-one else is going to admit to using Verm-x here oo, why not? Yeh, why not, I'm intrigued ... my chucks are due to be wormed soon (I think) and would prefer to use VermX, so very interested in this post!! (Sorry to crash it, Eggwards family!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollie333 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 No clue, really. Try searching the forum. Only thing i can think of is when it makes contact with your skin, it smells for days! I'd wear gloves when dealing with the Liquid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollie333 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 A bit of information on womers *Here*. It seems like Verm X is generally considered to be more of a preventative wormer, rather than a cure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallyChook Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I use verm-x pellets on my chooks and have never had a worm problem... I have no problem admitting it! As for making sure they've had enough, it's kind of a rough percentage thing, and hoping that each hen eats about the same amount. I always withold the food the day before I start the three days treatment just so that they're a bit more hungry when I do start treatment, and then I only give just enough food each day so that by about 3pm there is nothing left... then I will treat with corn later so they dont go to bed empty. Maybe a bit cruel but it always seems to work, and the other 28 days a month they have full access to pellets all day long. They also free range so pick up various bugs and vegetation even when I withold the pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramble Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 Wow, thanks (sorry, Eggwards family, I'm crashing in again, but your question was great!!!) I'm just wondering if the VermX pellets could be mixed into a "porridge" with water, to make them a bit more palatable? I use VermX on my dog (obviously not the poultry one!) as she seems to throw up with "normal" worming tabs and as far as I can tell, shes A OK on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mollie333 Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 i had to worm my youngsters. i mixed chick crumb and water till it was a thick porrige and then squirted the liquid form in it and mixed it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Beaumont Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I think the main issue with Verm-x is it is a herbal remedy and as such not scientifically proven to work. A lot of people do use it with success though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallyChook Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 and definitely any way of keeping hens more organically (says the woman who has just nuked the mites in her coop with every chemical going) is surely better than using poisons *IF* they work.... I know I have faith in the apple cider vinegar and a clove of garlic in my water containers as a deterrent to critters anyways! Poultry spice too is a nice herbal way of just introducing a little extra goodness into the birds diets or so my friends tell me, although my birds dont seem to like it I used raspberry leaf tea when pregnant though for myself, to strengthen my contractions, and use chamomile tea to help me sleep, advise people with heart problems to take garlic capsules and think that St Johns wart is a great anti-depressant (except for pregnant folks lol)... evening primrose for female problems.... maybe I am proof that belief in itself is strong enough to make things work or maybe nature does provide some really good remedies. *clutches her permethrin and poultry shield to her chest* I still think some situations require a bit of science too though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I'm with you all the way CallyChook (though not with the pregnancy if that's okay with you ) Sorry everyone, I didn't mean to make it sound suspicious, it's just that I'm usually a lone voice when it comes to controlling worms with non-Flubenvet measures. I've been using Verm-x for several years and am more than happy with its effectiveness, but you will find that most here recommend Flubenvet. HTH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstar Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I use Verm X too with success. My girls got gape worm soon after I got them (my fault for putting them where the bird feeders used to be). I bought Verm X and it cured it. I now use it on the first 3 days of a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_eggwards_family Posted August 13, 2010 Author Share Posted August 13, 2010 Thanks for all the contributions - this has been an eye opening thread! I think they have managed to get enough over the last 3 days so I think I will leave it at that, and then maybe use flubanevet next month as a twice yearly thing (autumn and spring) and use verm-x monthly thereafter. Does that sound like a plan? I like the idea of making sure they are hungry too I haven't tried making a "porridge" with their food yet, but do you still just put it in their grub container, or in something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majuka Posted August 13, 2010 Share Posted August 13, 2010 I have been using Flubenvet for some time but have always worried because such a small amount is required that all of the girls are getting the required allowance. I intend to carry on using the flubenvet but to top up with the verm-x in the meantime. We first used the verm-x liquid at the beginning of the month and it seemed to suit our girls. They are not due to be 'wormed' again yet but when they are we shall use the Flubenvet. Hopefully with a combination of the 2 our girls should be worm free! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramble Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 I haven't tried making a "porridge" with their food yet, but do you still just put it in their grub container, or in something else? Great thread Eggwards, you opened up a real can of worms if you'll forgive the pun!!!! Anyway, my chucks LOVE it when I make them porridge and put it in half a melon (I scoop out most of the melon first but leave some in there for the chucks) then mix in their crumbs with warm water, the melon seeds and sometimes cod liver oil and eggshell or limestone flour. Doesn't sound great but the love it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bramble Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Well, Ive been and gone and done it ... This post has helped me reach a decision, Ive been out and bought some verm-x and given the chucks there first dose this morning ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavysqueak Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 We use the Verm-X pellets & put them into their layers meal/mash, which we mix with water. They love the layers meal, so they eat it all - I obviously have to hope that each chicken get roughly their share of the layers meal, but apart from that it seems to work well. If we ever have a bout of worms I'll probably look for something stronger, but for the preventative measures I like the idea of sticking to the 'gentler' herbal based remedies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_eggwards_family Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 Thanks for all the replies - this thread has been really helpful to us. Might try the porridge thing when we finally get round to eating the melon that's in the fridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patsylabrador Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I've been using verm-x for the past year, and the chickens appear to be fine and healthy. They love the pellets and get quite excited when I put them on top of their food, I do it in front of them and they watch what I'm doing and then dive in. I mix the pellets with very small sized grit and oyster shell and it's all very exciting. I simply watch them for a short while to make sure they've all had some and dig around in their pot at bedtime to make sure the pellets are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
