beckyfitz Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) Noticed this morning Fleur had quite a dirty bottom so i brought her in, bathed her & discovered she had prolapsed. i soaked her in warm water for quite a while, cleaned it as best i could after soaking & tried to gently push it back but it would not stay. Unfortunately i was away at the weekend & DS was looking after the chooks & I think she may have been like this a couple of days. There seems to be a hole on the right of the prolapse, I'm not sure if this is part of her 'workings' or if hse has been pecked. I've kept her indoors & hubby has gone out for some Preparation H so wil bathe her gain, apply the cream & try again to replace it. i'm worried about infection - is it Ok to use purple spray on prolapses? I tried to phone my wonderful vet who nursed one of my ducks back to full health only to discover he has returned to New Zealand & the vet who is covering won't deal with poultry at all 'not even Budgies' the receptionist told me!! It was hard to find a vet in our area who would see chickens, so if anyone knows of one I'd be grateful, I live in Bexley, DA8. I've read up on dealing with prolapses & will try my best, but I'm worried that the outlook often is not good & would want a vet to help end the suffering if it came to it Becky x Edited January 12, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Purple spray is good to use and you are doing the right things but I'm afraid the outlook isn't good mainly due to the complication of infection Until you can get to a vet the prep H may bring swelling down but try and prevent egg formation by keeping her in a gloomy area and not feeding her layers, so weetabix, oats, wheat, corn etc are fine but give plain grit and fluids. As you know preventing pecking is important. Good luck it's horrid I do hope she recovers or you find a vet. Any of these near you viewtopic.php?f=41&t=4447 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Becky, your local vet should be ashamed. They can't say that they 'wont' see an animal in suffering. Whilst they may not be experienced in poultry their basic training would allow them to make a sensible professional decision on whether your poor little hen is going to make it. If there is a hole in the prolapse which shouldn't be there her prospects are poor. If you are really struggling just turn up at your local vet when you know that there is someone there and ask them to cast their eye over her. If she is suffering and there is no hope for her they will end her suffering. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckyfitz Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks. have let her out for a run with the others for a while this morning, then bathed & treated her again. She is now settled on her own in a rabbit hutch where she can keep a lot cleaner & dry. I can't get the proloapse to stay in at all. She seems absolutely fine in herself, such a shame. She's such a good layer she hasn'ts topped through the cold & dark, or even through her moult but bless her she is paying for it now. Will keep her off layers & fairly dark to try to stop her laying. Becky x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 The prolapse has to stay in otherwise it will dehydrate and the tissue will get infected and die. Your other hens are likely to peck at it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 Some advice **here**. In addition to the above you could take her off layers pellets and just give her wheat and water for a few days, and keep her in the dark, apart from when you examine her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 It took a couple of weeks for one of mine to go back but I kept it moist with Anusol and then Sudocrem to keep it flexible in case she laid then it died off and sloughed off leaving healthy tissue underneath that went straight back but she did have antibiotic cover. Have you had any luck with vet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckyfitz Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Grrr - feeling a bit sad today & annoyed. I bathed Fleur again last night & manged to get the prolapse back in, held it in place for a while & it did stay though the vent looked quite slack. This morning it was out again I phoned a different vet, the one that sees our cats, & again the receptionists told me the vet doesn't see poultry at all. I'm happy to treat her as best I can at home but there is a limit to my unqualified capabilities - what do they expect you to do??? So I took Chucky Mama's advice & explained I had a suffering animal & I feel cruel just leaving it & was actually getting a bit tearful so she must have taken pity on me & told me to bring her in this morning. Does anyone else have this problem with vets? I know I live in a suburban area & vets are not as used to farm animals, but surely they see more exotic things than chickens? That's interesting Plum about the tissue dying off & leaving healthy underneath, maybe if I can get antibiotics from the vet there is a chance for Fleur. Becky x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Well done Becky, I am sure that you will get a better idea of whether she will make it when the vet has had a look. Prolapses are not good news but you have done the right thing by getting someone to have a look at her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckyfitz Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sadly, Fleur had to be put to sleep at the vets this morning. The tissue was dying & there wasn't anything else to be done. The young vet I saw was lovely, & when I asked her about the refusal to see poultry she said as long as we are aware they are not poultry experts she will be happy to advise over the phone & there may be bits & pieces they can do, & certainly as in the case of Fleur they would see her if there is aneed to euthanase. RIP Fleur, she was a beautiful upright Fenning White who laid lovely white eggs all throught the winter, we will miss her. Becky x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sorry to hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mollyripkim Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Oh I am so sorry to hear you had to let her go but you did your best for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chestnutmare Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sorry to hear this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Oh Becky that is a real shame You absolutely did the right thing though so you can be proud of yourself. How lovely too that you know now that you can go to this vet and they can help you when you need them too. Between us and your vet I am sure that we can deal with most things in the future. I always think it is a good idea to warn the vets of what you think the problem is so that they can do a bit of research before you arrive for a consultation. We must cut our vets a little slack as they are treating a miriad of species with any number of conditions. They are only human Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Very sorry to hear that . Good for you for sticking to your guns though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 So sorry, its a rarity for them to make it. It's so hard to see them go with prolapse though, otherwise they are healthy. Big hugs for you making a brave decision. Naughty receptionist not checking with vet but at least you have a plan for future and as more people get chickens they'll start learning and going on courses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 So sorry, you did your best for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cathybc Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 so sorry, RIP little one. I too have had problems in trying to find a vet who can deal with more than cats and dogs x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beckyfitz Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thanks all for your kind replies. My two DS are rather upset as we sadly lost our ginger chicken only a short while ago. On the plus side, I have made tentative enquiries to my local breeder so hope to be re-stocking some new friends for Molly soon. Becky x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
