mikk100 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I seem to be having coccidiosis over and over again. It appears one hen shows symptoms, then I treat them all then eventually that one dies, and the others are fine for a couple months then another shows symptoms etc etc. I have a walk in run and ex-battery hens (which are elderly so I know they have to die of something) so after each episode have been digging out the soil and replacing straw and disinfecting etc. I keep everything really clean so have come to conclusion it is in the ground and maybe being passed on by wild birds. My main concern is whether its ok to keep treating with Coxoid as I feel as though they're on a constant diet of that and then poultry tonic, then back onto the Coxoid...I have seen it work when a bird showed symptoms then totally came back from death so I do rate it, but will they be ok if I keep on like this? Any thoughts as I found bloody poos this morning so am off back to the supplier for more Coxoid tonight....and Stalosan. I want new hens as am down to 3 ex-batts so really want to get rid of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Have you actually had coccidiosis officially confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roobaloo Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 (edited) Are you sure it's blood? Sometimes there poo can have a pinkish tinge to it, that at first glance looks like blood but it can be just part of the gut lining (which can be shed) http://www.chat.allotment.org.uk/index.php?topic=17568.0 <--- Poo related topic from the Poultry Page forum. Have a look at the wide range of "Normal" droppings, including ones with red material! Mine had Cocci...I had been raising chicks at the time and they were being treated for it...then the big girls seemed to go down hill. They were reluctant to do anything, they just sat hunched up, tails down. About 3 weeks after their treatment, I found some reddich poo and worried that they'd been re-infected but no, it was normal...they were all well, pecking happily...and periodically I'll still find a pink/red tinted poo. Edited February 22, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coco Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Flora had cocci when she was 18 weeks old. sec had antibiotics and anti coocidiants from the vet. Fleur who was in the same run as her didn't get it. Could be worth gettin cocci confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicken bark Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I've also read somewhere that there are 9 strains of Cocci that hens are vulnerable too. So they get an immunity to each one they are exposed to but obviously that could take some time. One of my hens is being treated on antibiotics at the moment (she is in a run within the main run now) and the other 8 hens that share the same run are all fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikk100 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 thanks everyone, i've had a look at that interesting poo page and what i found this morning does look like the intestinal lining so maybe i won't dose them until i see any other symptoms. I did have it confirmed the 1st time and the vet told me what to look out for, the remaining hens that have died did seem to be suffering the same way but I take everyone's point that it may not be cocci every time. Thanks I feel a bit more relaxed about it now and may risk some new hens if all stays clear in a few weeks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 Coxoid is a pretty harsh treatment to be using regularly. Have you thought about using a preventative measure like Herban and Oregstim (sp??) (oregano based product added to the drinking water)? I've used the maintenance dose on my LF for the past year or so after an outbreak of cocci. In actual fact, when I had cocci confirmed by a droppings sample (Retford Poultry Vets), then did say that Herban was an alternative treatment to Coxoid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chucky Mama Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I would suggest getting a poo sample sent off for confirmation (or not) of the diagnosis before any more treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I'd agree, best get the droppings checked if you are unsure As Jools says Coxoid is very harsh treatment even just used once, a probiotic such as Avipro will be of benefit after a treatment like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Another thing to remember is that Coxoid is *not licensed for use in poultry in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted July 15, 2014 Share Posted July 15, 2014 I realise this is an old thread, but was wonder why coxoid is a harsh treatment ? Doesn't it work by blocking a b vitamin thiamine that the organism needs to breed or live and therefore killing it, then the only thing needed would be to replace vitamin and iron to replace the effects of that and the internal bleedeing it causes .? Do you think it is more or less harsh than baycox? Have just heard retfords aren't using baycox now they are sending something else out, I have a feeling it's corid.... Only they used generic name on phone and am trying to google to see if amprolium is the same as coxoid or not,,,,, Well I just got the answer. And it is so I hope they are not sending that out as I already have that and have treated, I was told it's not effective in older birds , something yo do with the different strains ? Well will know soon as it gets here .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...