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I seem to be having coccidiosis over and over again. It appears one hen shows symptoms, then I treat them all then eventually that one dies, and the others are fine for a couple months then another shows symptoms etc etc. I have a walk in run and ex-battery hens (which are elderly so I know they have to die of something) so after each episode have been digging out the soil and replacing straw and disinfecting etc. I keep everything really clean so have come to conclusion it is in the ground and maybe being passed on by wild birds. My main concern is whether its ok to keep treating with Coxoid as I feel as though they're on a constant diet of that and then poultry tonic, then back onto the Coxoid...I have seen it work when a bird showed symptoms then totally came back from death so I do rate it, but will they be ok if I keep on like this? Any thoughts as I found bloody poos this morning so am off back to the supplier for more Coxoid tonight....and Stalosan.

 

I want new hens as am down to 3 ex-batts so really want to get rid of it

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Are you sure it's blood?

 

Sometimes there poo can have a pinkish tinge to it, that at first glance looks like blood but it can be just part of the gut lining (which can be shed)

 

http://www.chat.allotment.org.uk/index.php?topic=17568.0 <--- Poo related topic from the Poultry Page forum. Have a look at the wide range of "Normal" droppings, including ones with red material!

 

Mine had Cocci...I had been raising chicks at the time and they were being treated for it...then the big girls seemed to go down hill. They were reluctant to do anything, they just sat hunched up, tails down. About 3 weeks after their treatment, I found some reddich poo and worried that they'd been re-infected but no, it was normal...they were all well, pecking happily...and periodically I'll still find a pink/red tinted poo.

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I've also read somewhere that there are 9 strains of Cocci that hens are vulnerable too. So they get an immunity to each one they are exposed to but obviously that could take some time.

 

One of my hens is being treated on antibiotics at the moment (she is in a run within the main run now) and the other 8 hens that share the same run are all fine. :?

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thanks everyone, i've had a look at that interesting poo page :shock: and what i found this morning does look like the intestinal lining so maybe i won't dose them until i see any other symptoms. I did have it confirmed the 1st time and the vet told me what to look out for, the remaining hens that have died did seem to be suffering the same way but I take everyone's point that it may not be cocci every time. Thanks I feel a bit more relaxed about it now and may risk some new hens if all stays clear in a few weeks :D

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Coxoid is a pretty harsh treatment to be using regularly. Have you thought about using a preventative measure like Herban and Oregstim (sp??) (oregano based product added to the drinking water)? I've used the maintenance dose on my LF for the past year or so after an outbreak of cocci. In actual fact, when I had cocci confirmed by a droppings sample (Retford Poultry Vets), then did say that Herban was an alternative treatment to Coxoid.

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I realise this is an old thread, but was wonder why coxoid is a harsh treatment ?

Doesn't it work by blocking a b vitamin thiamine that the organism needs to breed or live and therefore killing it, then the only thing needed would be to replace vitamin and iron to replace the effects of that and the internal bleedeing it causes .?

Do you think it is more or less harsh than baycox?

Have just heard retfords aren't using baycox now they are sending something else out,

I have a feeling it's corid.... Only they used generic name on phone and am trying to google to see if amprolium is the same as coxoid or not,,,,,

Well I just got the answer. And it is so I hope they are not sending that out as I already have that and have treated, I was told it's not effective in older birds , something yo do with the different strains ? Well will know soon as it gets here ..

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