Luvachicken Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I'm pretty certain there are no badgers on Jersey and Guernsey, so what I would like to know is, if cows there get TB. If the cows there do have TB then there is no need to cull the badgers, is there ? Do cows in other countries, that don't have badgers, get TB ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angie Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 There are no badgers in Oman and yes there is TB amongst the cattle , but there again there is rabies too carried by wild dogs , foxes etc......and dessert creatures . Lots of nasties that bite too so not sure where or who the carriers are.There again TB is in the population so who knows ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey Lucy Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 No badgers here - Isle of Man - but I've no idea about TB. I'll try to find out... Interesting question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavenders_Blue Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I'm fairly certain there is TB on the Isle of Man. How did it get there? Via infected cattle brought onto the island of course Won't say any more on the subject I have very strong views and could fill a whole page with my rantings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvachicken Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 I just think that badgers may not be the only cause of TB. Plus the unnatural cull of badgers by our cars must have an impact on their numbers, I've seen more dead badgers in my life than I've ever seen living ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken shack Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Not sure if this is an urban mith or country side mith but I was told that some farmers kills badgers and then put them on the side of the raod to make it look like road kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvachicken Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 Not sure if this is an urban mith or country side mith but I was told that some farmers kills badgers and then put them on the side of the raod to make it look like road kill. Awww, poor badgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freddie Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 We've got several badger setts very near us, to the point I have to be careful at night taking the dog out. They are big, and can be very aggressive. The dog would be killed, no doubt about it. We do have an awful lot of deer too. We have many TB restricted herds around us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LottyJ1 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Bovine TB was initially spread to badgers by cows and they are now just carriers for the disease. Bovine TB is also spread cow to cow so anywhere with cows and imports and exports can get it. I just wish they would tell us more about the vaccine they are working on as that would be the best solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvachicken Posted November 14, 2012 Author Share Posted November 14, 2012 We've got several badger setts very near us, to the point I have to be careful at night taking the dog out. They are big, and can be very aggressive. The dog would be killed, no doubt about it. We do have an awful lot of deer too. We have many TB restricted herds around us. Wow, I didn't know they were that viscious. I always thought they looked quite cute....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I don't know a lot about the subject and I'm still not sure which side of the fence I sit on with the badger culling plans as I can see both points of view, but I would think they cows on Jersey and Guernsey could get TB yes. I think you may be over simplifying it, its not just badgers which can be infected with TB - other mammals like dogs, cats and pigs can be so thats how cows on the islands could have become infected. Just because some cows on the islands have it doesn't mean they all will - if you say there's no need to cull the badgers because TB is already there, that would put the entire cattle population at risk? If (for example) there were a few cows with TB and the badger population was proven to be spreading it across the island. TB infected badgers were culled to make the badger population healthier and in turn it prevented further spread of the disease, the cows at risk would no longer become infected and so TB could be eradicated from the islands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luvachicken Posted November 16, 2012 Author Share Posted November 16, 2012 I don't know a lot about the subject and I'm still not sure which side of the fence I sit on with the badger culling plans as I can see both points of view, but I would think they cows on Jersey and Guernsey could get TB yes.I think you may be over simplifying it, its not just badgers which can be infected with TB - other mammals like dogs, cats and pigs can be so thats how cows on the islands could have become infected. Just because some cows on the islands have it doesn't mean they all will - if you say there's no need to cull the badgers because TB is already there, that would put the entire cattle population at risk? If (for example) there were a few cows with TB and the badger population was proven to be spreading it across the island. TB infected badgers were culled to make the badger population healthier and in turn it prevented further spread of the disease, the cows at risk would no longer become infected and so TB could be eradicated from the islands? I kind of get what you're saying, but if the other animals you say spread TB, then even if you killed all the badgers the cows would still get TB from them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
