Mrs Frugal Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Hi Becks, If you just run the dough programme, it will knead and give the dough a rise. When it's finished the programme, take the dough out and either put it in a loaf tin (great because you don't get the hole in the bottom!) or shape it into whatever shape you like on a baking tray then pop it in the airing cupboard for 40-45 minutes or until it's doubled in size and looks well risen. Take it out and pop it into a preheated oven at around 220C for 40 minutes for a 2lb loaf - checking near the end of cooking time to make sure it's not burning!! Rolls can be made in the same way but shape them before they go in the airing cupboard and only cook them for 15-20 minutes at 200C. Cool on a wire rack. TIP FOR LOAF TIN - if you've got any of those silicone lining sheets for your baking trays, cut one to fit the loaf tin and the bread won't get stuck and simply slides out every time! I've got a black silicone one which I use every time and my bread never gets stuck in the tin - very frustrating when that happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 hmm don't have an airing cupboard but am assuming that wrapping in a warm tea towel would do the trick or leaving near a radiator. thanks for that! Might treat myself to one of those jamie oliver squiggy loaf tins as bought some of the muffin trays and they are fab - pop out perfectly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Cluck Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 HI have also been watching this thread with interest - have been looking at bread making machines for a while but its the 'will I use it' that has stopped me. Having said that am fed up having to go shopping twice a week as you can't shop for bread rolls for the end of the week as they're always up in a few days. are rolls ok made in the machines - or do you just make the dough and cook them in the oven ? anyone made rolls overnight in their machines please thanks lyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Frugal Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I've always done rolls using the dough programme and finish them off by hand -> airing cupboard -> oven. My previous machine would cook rolls once they had been shaped by hand but they weren't good at all. Ones made using the dough programme then finishing them in the airing cupboard then oven are much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 We got the Panasonic SD252 (same as SD253, but without the nut/raisin dispenser). It was on Amazon for about £10-£15 cheaper than the SD253, but it looks like it's now only available from popcorn via Amazon. We've had several breadmakers and this one is by far the best. It just works and produces consistently good bread time after time. Empire Direct do it for £66.98 inc delivery. Otherwise if you want nuts/raisins (choccy drops?) automatically added to your bread, for £10 more then SD253 is a good buy from Amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Prompted by this thread I got my breadmaker out last night and decided to use a book for a recipe that I've had for ages but never used (I usually use the one that came with the maker - its a panasonic with the nut dispenser) - well my loaf came out with a hard collapsed top - tastes okay but looks terrible! I interested in the idea of just using the dough option now though and then puting it in the oven to cook -any tips? If you do it that way do you have to leave it to rise/rest before putting it in the oven? I also made some carrot muffins from the recipe thread (Devon's ones) and they were delicious - not so good for my eternal diet though! Becks, If you haven't used your bread machine for a while does that mean the yeast you were using was quite old? I find it goes off very quickly, and old yeast would have caused the problems you mentioned. Go and buy yourself a new packet! I do rolls by making the dough in the machine, then shaping the rolls by hand and cooking in the oven. They only take about 8 mins in the oven so are very quick. My recipes advise shaping the dough into rolls then leaving for another rise. I used to do that but then stopped when a friend told me she never bothered. There seems to be absolutely no difference in taste, texture, size or anything! Fresh rolls for breakfast? I make the dough overnight and then while we are eating cereal, the rolls are cooking, and you can have fresh, hot rolls instead of toast. That's a real weekend treat!! I failed miserably to post any recipes last night, but will try to remember tonight. Love, Cookie. xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
becks Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 No fresh yeast but I did forget to put some milk in so had to add it at the end trying to avoid the yeast so I think maybe that was the problem! Am going to try to do a white loaf tonight on dough only and see how it goes in the oven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Yum - every time I read this thread I get hungry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaz Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Yummmm. By the way, if you fancy a quick homemade bread, but don't have a breadmaker, Irish soda bread is great! I started when I cut out yeast to help my immune system, as you don't need it for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Would you post your recipe in the Recipe section Sheila? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Sounds great, must have a go at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 I have dough in the bread machine, hens pootling happily around in the sunshine and DD is still having a lunchtime nap, so thought I should finally come back and post some bread recipes! Honey & Sunflower Bread half teaspoon yeast 200g white bread flour 200g granary flour 15g butter 1 tablespoon milk powder 1 teaspoon salt 1 and a half tablespoons honey 280ml water 2 tablespoons sunflower seeds. Put on a wholemeal setting. You can replace the milk powder & water with milk. Pesto & pine nut rolls half teaspoon yeast 200g wholemeal bread flour 200g white bread flour 1 tablespoon sugar 1 tablespoon olive oil 1 tablespoon milk powder 1 teaspoon salt 2 tablespoons pesto 300ml water 50g pine nuts Put on wholemeal dough setting. Can replace milk powder & water with milk. Cheese brioche rolls * seriously yummy! half teaspoon yeast 250g white bread flour 1 teaspoon sugar 25g butter 1 tablespoon milk powder half teaspoon salt 100g grated cheese 2 eggs 80 ml water Put on basic dough setting. Quantities easily doubled. Bake rolls on baking sheets at gas mark 7 for 8-10 mins. Enjoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Would you post your recipe in the Recipe section Sheila? Yes, one day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcat Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Empire Direct do it for £66.98 inc delivery. thats a good price for that one! I've been looking for a new one for a while now as for some reason my old cheap trusty I've had for 3 years has decided to give it up and the loaves now come out like bricks. OK for toast but... Love my breadmaker as I never have time to do it by hand. Wish I was more organised Kate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Finally persuaded OH that a breadmaker would be a fantastic addition to our tiny kitchen! We are buying the Panasonic SD253 from Amazon to celebrate our 21st wedding anniversary later this month! He says we should get it early so we can wake up to freshly-baked bread on the actual day! Thank you all for your recommendations. They really helped to persuade him that this was the right one to buy, coupled with the Which report this month and the recommendations on Amazon. Can't wait! P.S. Also greener, as no more plastic bread bags! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 You'll love it Ginette I make loads of bread in it now, as Phil wants half a loaf up at his place too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I can't wait! One of the reviews on Amazon said each loaf probably cost about 70p. Do you think this is right, obviously depending what you put into it? I'll be making wholemeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I haven't stopped to work it out I make a medium loaf from: 375g of a mix of Doves strong white flour and a little spelt flour teaspoon of salt half a sachet of yeast 2 tablespoons of honey 225 ml of warm water a couple of handfuls of omega seeds (in the nut dispenser) Put it on raisin bake, light crust and in 4 hours you have a scrummy hot loaf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcat Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Ginette, It does depend on the flour you buy as it varies from cheapo Tescos (a friend of mine swears by Aldi's bread flour), Allinsons etc. I like Granary and that seems to work quite well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Cluck Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 hi were converts for the Panasonic as well - absolutly brilliant results cant believe I didnt get one earlier. The only thing is - I cheat and buy the ready mixes from the supermarkets their own make ones are only about 49p. I thought I would start off with this to see how I go and for practice but its so easy I havent made a bad loaf of bread yet, although my rolls are coming out a bit hard but I think i must over cook them - (could any expert out there tell me how to tell when they are done please) Good luck and happy baking Lyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 When I used to use a breadmaker, I always used Sainsburys own brand strong bread flour, as it always gave perfect light fluffy loafs - I can strongly recommend it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 That sounds good, Spelt flour needs to be 'diluted' as it is pretty hard otherwise. I have made a few of the other recipes in the book that comes with it, and they are all great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ali-s Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I've got a Panasonic breadmaker and I can reccomend Lidls bread flour at 27p for a 1.5kg bag. Cakes made in the machine are lovely. I use a 2lb loaf tin liner (Lakeland ltd) to line the bread pan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muppet81 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I wondered about lakeland liners when I got my Panasonic. Then I tried 2 different cakes (boozey Cake in the book and a gorgeous banana loaf - the recipe for which I posted under the heading of Banana in the All Things Nice section). Neither of the cakes stuck in fact they just fell out which the pan was tipped up. Much easier I am all for a simple life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I find that all my loaves so far have just fallen out of the tin, but I will certainly invest in those liners for when I bake using my Kenwood chef and ordinary loaf tins - otherwise I end up cutting greaseproof paper to fit inside them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
