Snowy Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I can see Richard's point of view. A lot of the places that are 'holiday' destinations were once beautiful places before they were developed, we just never saw them before the complexes and hotels were built. A bit like that place, I think on the east coast of Scotland, that Donald Trump wants to turn into a posh golf course. At the moment it is a lovely coast, accessible to all and enjoyed by those who live there. Once Trump is finished with it, it will become 'exclusive' and inaccessible and will lose much of it's natural beauty. On the other hand, a lot of the locals are keen for it to go ahead because it will bring a cash influx to the area. But many people are not fortunate enough to live in beautiful places. Is it right for those of us who do to deny them the opportunity to get away from their city existence for a few short weeks of the year? An interesting debate - not sure what the answer is though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickencam Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I so agree with you Ziggy I don't understand people who have children and spend all their time trying to think of ways of getting rid of them. I think that so many of the problems that people have with their children and teenagers particularly is that they don't have enough of a day to day relationship with them and have lost touch and don't communicate. Holidays are a great time to catch up with each other We are a very close knit family and we love just being at home with the kids when they are off school, eating breakfast in bed, strolling around in pj's til lunch, going for walks playing games etc, we love just being together doing our own thing. We tend to choose holidays where we can do much the same with a couple of trips out. We like to camp and the kids enjoy the freedom, but we have also had a couple of bad experiences including a tent destroyed by 40 mile per hour winds on a cliff top in Dorset (very scary glad it wasn't the middle of the night) and a sight where a couple had an f'ing and blinding row which involved the police being called at 3am and some people think that camping is an excuse to send the kids off on their own to find others to play with and not come back to bother them, so if you are doing things with your own children you tend to find lonely and sometimes very unpleasant hangers on. We are having our main holidays in a cottage this year which is midway between both sets of parents so it combines a holiday with family visiting. we are going back to one we haven't been to for a number of years which has a large orchard for the children to play in, but we will still miss our home comforts like our woodburner and of course our cats and chickens, and we will worry about our greenhouse and allotment crops while we are away it seems silly sometimes to tend them all spring only to go away for a week in the summer and come back to frizzled plants We will be camping for a couple of odd weekends locally probably in the Forest of Dean or over at a really posh site near my grandad's for his birthday and at the Wychwood music festival at Cheltenham racecourse only about 5 miles away but it does mean that we can relax and enjoy our day have a drink and still be home by lunchtime the next day to see to our animals and plants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhapsody Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 As usual I am the detractor in the woodshed. I cant abide self-catering cottage hols especially in British weather, its not what I go on holiday for- I can drive my kids around and cook wash up etc at home for free. My family went on a lot of MarkWarner holidays when the kids were small, some days they went in the kids club and had a ball and we all had breakfast lunch and an afternoon swim together, then peeled off so they could be with other kids and we could have some adult conversation. I wasn't working at the time so adult conversation was a bit thin on the ground! We all learned to sail and windsurf and waterski and became qualified divers and I never felt we were 'getting rid of our kids' but giving them a bit of safe freedom and other kids to hang out with .As a full-time mum I appreciated a little bit of freedom myself.. We have come back to MarkWarner now the boys are teens as their teen program is excellent and my kids have begged us to go again this year. With all respect to OP,I think( like most things in life) you have to try it before you pre-judge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Tell you want. Anyone want to give me a holiday? I havent had one in five years (yes I knwo some people go longer) but I would like to go somewhere else. I wouldn't live here given the choice )we're here because of dhs job) and even if its for a week I would love to be somewhere where I would like to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Tell you want. Anyone want to give me a holiday? I havent had one in five years (yes I knwo some people go longer) but I would like to go somewhere else. I wouldn't live here given the choice )we're here because of dhs job) and even if its for a week I would love to be somewhere where I would like to be. Aww bron if you lived closer I would certainly lend you our touring caravan , we often lend it out to friends for no charge as we dont go away in the school holidays in it (too busy) so its just sat here on the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 oooh I'd never heard of those Mark Warner resorts before last year and I looked at them then - are they good? Sounds like the sort of thing we would like if we decided not to cruise. Its important for us to have good kids clubs - as I said earlier being an only child James needs to have other kids to play with. Actually we do stuff together most weekends but often he is just in adult company - he loves to go shopping - if there is a creche for him to play in. Flippin one at Bluewater has closed and now he doens't want to go to Bluewater anymore (he likes the play area outside McDonalds too but we don't always want to be outside in this weather! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina C Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Bron - want to come and house/chicken sit while we are on holiday? No, I know, St Neots is not quite what you were thinking of.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Thanks guys aren't you lot sweet I was only joking really. Well it was all true but this year I#'m getting aholiday. the inlaws have just boguht a new boat so its a cruise on the broads for us this year and teaching the children to sail which I'm really looking forward to. I would like them to grow up as happy in and on the water as on land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Posted March 17, 2008 Author Share Posted March 17, 2008 Bronze, that's what my OH has always aimed at... we go sailing each spring... despite having kids that tend to get seasick (without mention their poor mum)... They spend so much time in the water, whenever we are by the sea or by a pool, that I wonder how they haven't grown fins yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I would like to go somewhere else. I wouldn't live here given the choice )we're here because of dhs job) and even if its for a week I would love to be somewhere where I would like to be. AArrggghhhh I don't believe it. You live in God's wonderful county, the most beautiful part of the world. I spend my entire life trying to keep people away because folk keep saying - you live in Norfolk, how wonderful, I must come to visit you .... And I say No, stay away, its terrible here ... Ah, I've just realised, you're doing the same. You are trying to persuade them all that its terrible here, so that we can keep it to ourselves. Sorry, I didn't realise - good wheeze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronze Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 I don't think its terrible here. I can see its beauty and understand other peoples love for it but its too flat for me. I need hills. Proper hills where if its about to rain you can see the top and if you can't its already raining. So now you all know its not terrible in Norfolk feel free to drop in on Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 So now you all know its not terrible in Norfolk feel free to drop in on Richard Noooooooooooooooooooo, Its horrible here, don't drop in, stay away. Its awful. go up a hill somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules. Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 We could have a sticky- The Omlet House-Swop!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkshire Pudding Posted March 19, 2008 Share Posted March 19, 2008 Fab idea - holidays with built-in chickens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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