Solitary chicken - need advice

[tom123]

Hello

 

From now up until the holidays we are doing an essay on a personal subject. I have chosen fox hunting as I am really quite passionate about it. I have hunted for around 8 years and still do. I see it as something that gets the whole community involved and really gives Britain that country spirit. I hunt with my friends and our horses and I look forward to it every month. Please could you give me your opinion of it in this questionnaire.

 

Thanks...

 

 

1. Do you believe in fox hunting?

 

2. If No, have you ever actually seen or been to a hunt?

 

3. Is there a hunt in your area?

 

4. Do you find foxes pests?

 

5. Would you rather you lose one of your beloved pets or ONE fox gets culled? There is a maximum of 1 fox/week per hunt however this is rarely met.

 

6. If you were a fox would you rather:

 

a) get trapped for hours then shot in the head

b) shot, sometimes caught but not killed then get shot again.

c) Get chased by dogs then either left to go or shot immediately and humanly

 

7. Any other comments on fox hunting?

 

 

 

Thanks again

Tom

[Scramble]

 

1. Do you believe in fox hunting?

If it is an issue of over-population

2. If No, have you ever actually seen or been to a hunt?

I have never seen or been to a hunt

3. Is there a hunt in your area?

There is no hunting in my area, that I know of, but local farmers will shot foxes they see attacking their livestock

4. Do you find foxes pests?

Foxes do not bother me but I worry for my animals

5. Would you rather you lose one of your beloved pets or ONE fox gets culled? There is a maximum of 1 fox/week per hunt however this is rarely met.

I would rather one fox gets culled, as cruel as it may sound

6. If you were a fox would you rather:

 

a) get trapped for hours then shot in the head

b) shot, sometimes caught but not killed then get shot again.

c) Get chased by dogs then either left to go or shot immediately and humanly

7. Any other comments on fox hunting?

No other comments

 

 

Thanks again

Tom

 

 

Hope that helps

Good Luck with the coursework

Edited June 27, 2009 by Guest

[Lewis]

1. Do you believe in fox hunting?

-For the right reasons, like risks to livestock or over-population, Yes

 

2. If No, have you ever actually seen or been to a hunt?

-No

 

3. Is there a hunt in your area?

-I doubt it, wouldn't know

 

4. Do you find foxes pests?

-Yes, in a domestic situation

 

5. Would you rather, you lose one of your beloved pets or ONE fox gets culled? There is a maximum of 1 fox/week per hunt however this is rarely met.

One fox get culled

 

6. If you were a fox would you rather:

 

a) get trapped for hours then shot in the head

b) shot, sometimes caught but not killed then get shot again.

c) Get chased by dogs then either left to go or shot immediately and humanly

-c

 

7. Any other comments on fox hunting?

-

[Guest]

1. Do you believe in fox hunting?

 

difficult one. In some cases foxes can be a pest and their numbers need to be controlled however I don't agree with it as a 'sport'. I don't know of a better alternative as trapping and poisoning is even worse and shooting them isn't always accurate enough, so I am very undecided on the whole subject to be honest. I prefer to live and let live but I know that's not very practical when it comes to farming.

 

2. If No, have you ever actually seen or been to a hunt?

 

I have seen a hunt gather but not an actual hunt.

 

3. Is there a hunt in your area?

 

no idea.

 

4. Do you find foxes pests?

 

personally, no. I feel it is up to the back garden chicken keeper to ensure their chickens are safe. Then again, I am not a farmer with flocks of lambs and free range chickens to protect.

 

5. Would you rather you lose one of your beloved pets or ONE fox gets culled? There is a maximum of 1 fox/week per hunt however this is rarely met.

 

neither. My girls are in a WIR so there is no need for either side to perish.

 

6. If you were a fox would you rather:

 

a) get trapped for hours then shot in the head

b) shot, sometimes caught but not killed then get shot again.

c) Get chased by dogs then either left to go or shot immediately and humanly

 

Those answers are very weighted in favour of C in my opinion. Anyway, if I were a fox, I'd rather live!

 

7. Any other comments on fox hunting?

 

debate on the subject is good.

Edited June 27, 2009 by Guest

[ubereglu]

I don't think there is anything wrong with fox hunting, it brings together communities, keeps people employed and provides jobs, it gives horses and hounds a lot of exercise and so also keeps the riders fit.

 

In my opinion foxes are vermin, and there are too many of them, hunts keep the numbers down and stop many people losing livestock to them, as half the time foxes kill for the fun of it, rather than for food, (killing for food is fair enough, but for fun it is certainly not).

 

I didn't really have a problem about hounds killing foxes, as they too are just following their natural instinct, just as the fox does. It is wrong that on an hunt people should get prosecuted if the hound kills the fox before it is shot, as although you strive not to let this happen it still can.

 

I also disagree with the anti-foxhunting law in this country, it was brought into power by the Parliament Act and this, in itself, is an unlawful act, which had never been truly tested before just so Parliament could get one over the House of Lords and bypass them-so not everyone was able to have their say-so it wasn't true democracy.

[Space Chick]

Hello

 

From now up until the holidays we are doing an essay on a personal subject. I have chosen fox hunting as I am really quite passionate about it. I have hunted for around 8 years and still do. I see it as something that gets the whole community involved and really gives Britain that country spirit. I hunt with my friends and our horses and I look forward to it every month. Please could you give me your opinion of it in this questionnaire.

 

Thanks...

 

 

1. Do you believe in fox hunting?

No

 

2. If No, have you ever actually seen or been to a hunt?

I have seen the horses, dogs and dressed up people ready for a hunt and I know people who have been on hunts

 

3. Is there a hunt in your area?

Yes

 

4. Do you find foxes pests?

Yes

 

5. Would you rather you lose one of your beloved pets or ONE fox gets culled? There is a maximum of 1 fox/week per hunt however this is rarely met.

A fox gets culled

 

6. If you were a fox would you rather:

 

a) get trapped for hours then shot in the head

b) shot, sometimes caught but not killed then get shot again.

c) Get chased by dogs then either left to go or shot immediately and humanly

A tricky and somewhat leading question, but thinking as a fox I think I'd go a

 

7. Any other comments on fox hunting?

I agree that foxes are a major problem, however I find the glorifying of a cull in a hunt quite sick to be honest. Also, there are more humane methods of culling foxes (which I am in favour of) than setting a pack of dogs supported by people on horseback on them. I know "officially" that the dogs to not tear the fox limb from limb and I obviously can't give the details of your hunt, but I know this practice still goes on the the hunt near me. I think this is more abhorrent than when foxes tear a chicken apart, at least they are following animal instincts and do not have the rational thought of what should be decent members of society. I'm sorry if this is not what you want to hear but I feel very strongly about this.

 

 

Thanks again

Tom

[Guest]

just thinking, in what hunt is the fox caught and then let go? Isn't the argument on the 'pro' side that it keeps the fox population down so;

 

a) why would the fox be released

 

and

 

b) the hounds don't just sit back and wait for the hunters to release the fox.

 

On the subject of keeping people employed, capital punishment kept albert pierrepoint and his cohorts gainfully employed for mnay years but I'm not altogether in favour of that either!

[tom123]

Sometimes, when a hunt actually obeys the ban (not many do ) they have to let the fox go. They just get to a point where they have decided the hunt will end and just stop to let the fox live. The dogs just leave them.

 

Tom

[Guest]

Sometimes, when a hunt actually obeys the ban (not many do ) they have to let the fox go. They just get to a point where they have decided the hunt will end and just stop to let the fox live. The dogs just leave them.

 

Tom

 

you say "not many do" and then you laugh. Why is that?

[Space Chick]

I was thinking the same Poet

[Scramble]

fox hunting is a sensitive issue I would not take it lightly.

 

Thinking same as Poet and Debs... unless you meant to click ?

[tom123]

As most hunts have ignored the ban. It is still not illegal to poison foxes, shoot foxes or trap foxes. so why is it illegal to hunt them? None of the other ways of culling employ more than about 3 people per area however 1,280,000 people participate in hunts over the UK. It is a more substantial and healthier way of culling foxes, a farmer can go out once a month and shoot 20 foxes, a hunt will kill a max of 4 in a month. Farmers don't care what they shoot, hunts will ONLY kill 3 male foxes : 1 female fox each month to keep numbers right.

 

I know hunting is a serious and sensitive matter but we have to respect other peoples beliefs and accept that not everyone agrees with each other

 

Tom

[Guest]

As most hunts have ignored the ban. It is still not illegal to poison foxes.....

 

I think you'll find it is illegal to poison foxes.

[ClaireG]

1. Do you believe in fox hunting?

Yes

 

2. If No, have you ever actually seen or been to a hunt?

I havn't been myself but know a lot of hunting folk.

 

 

 

3. Is there a hunt in your area?

I don't know about here but there was where i used to live.

 

4. Do you find foxes pests?

Yes

 

5. Would you rather you lose one of your beloved pets or ONE fox gets culled? There is a maximum of 1 fox/week per hunt however this is rarely met.

 

6. If you were a fox would you rather:

 

a) get trapped for hours then shot in the head

b) shot, sometimes caught but not killed then get shot again.

c) Get chased by dogs then either left to go or shot immediately and humanly

 

C

 

7. Any other comments on fox hunting?

 

I attend point to point meetings (races for hunt horses for those that don't know) as various members of my family are involved in different ways eg my cousin trains point to pointers and my dad sponsers the leading jockeys area championship. Dad also supplies drink etc for meets, puppy shows etc etc and i have been involved with that side of hunting.

[tom123]

Oh, I thought it was still legal according you use a certain type of poison

 

Farmers have ignored this anyway, they would much rather sell a lamb and get money for it than loose it too a fox just because of some law. Only 11% of ALL deaths caused by foxes are taken. I completely understand that a fox needs to eat but the fact is they kill for fun. It is not fair to loose say 100 chickens just because the fox was having fun. It is just not fair, having lost 4 hens to a fox (not one of them taken) I have felt what it is like to loose something to mindless killing. Imagine your girls weren't in a WIR, would you rather kill a fox or loose possibly ALL your girls to mindless killing?

 

Tom

[Guest]

..... Imagine your girls weren't in a WIR, would you rather kill a fox or loose possibly ALL your girls to mindless killing?

 

Tom

 

That wouldn't happen as I would always make sure my chickens were protected.

 

Actually, you have helped me make my mind up.

 

The only justification for hunting, IMO, is for food. Unless you're going to eat it then you shouldn't kill it.

 

I'm going to leave it there now.

[Sheilaz]

I'm going to leave it there now.

 

...and on that note, I'm going to lock this topic.

Tom, I wish you well with your homework, and thank you to all the posters who replied. Everyone posted thoughtfully, politely, and with restraint, and no one has done anything wrong.

 

However, the subject is controversial and best not debated on the forum. We were going to pull it immediately but it started looking like straightforward data gathering, so decided to watch.

 

There are plenty of other outlets for this debate, it's really not worth risking the topic becoming upsetting.

 

I'm off to bed soon, & thought it best not to leave the topic running, hope you all understand.