Pro - Does anyone else's nest boxes get soaked in rain?

[The Dogmother]

I took Ruby on a walk with about 8 lurchers this afternoon - if you'd seen where they'd been, you'd have them innoculated every year! They were all charging in and out of this manky pond in the woodland - Ruby stank when we got back and had to be hosed down!

[Lesley]

So does Jazz (stink that is!) - goodness knows what she found yesterday

 

Thanks Susan - and all of you - I think that living on a farm it would probably be best to have the boosters - but I will ask exactly what the 3rd year booster consists of.

[chooklady]

I always have my dog vaccinated every year. Some of the diseases are truly awful and I could not stand it if my dog caught something like that. Many years ago my brother's friend's family had to puppy afghans, they were amazing but they both caught parvo, one died in a very short space of time and the other survived but was so ill for a very long time. I have always remembered how distraught they were, I couldn't go through that .

[Lewis]

So does Jazz (stink that is!) - goodness knows what she found yesterday

 

Thanks Susan - and all of you - I think that living on a farm it would probably be best to have the boosters - but I will ask exactly what the 3rd year booster consists of.

At the vets they call them DBV3 (dog vaccination booster 3) but I think after the first two they're the same every year after that.

They do distemper, hepatitis, parvo, flu, leptospirosis and rabies if you have a PETS passport, but I'm not sure if they are all done every year, or just at 8 and 10 weeks.

[Lewis]

I asked today about boosters in dogs, and the advice they give is to get them done every year.

 

He did say some of the vaccines only last one year - mainly leptospirosis, and certain types of the parvo vaccine can last up to 3 years in some animals, but they're given every year to be safe - prevention is better then cure

[Lesley]

Thanks Lewis

 

As Jazz is still ratting then we will take her and get it sorted.

[Old Speckled Hen]

What "Ooops, word censored!"ody tells you.

The Distemper vac should last 10 years.

Hepatitis is probably lifelong.

Leptospirosis needs reinforcing EVERY year.

Parvovirus is lifelong if you live in the city where field virus reinforces immunity, but it is really important to inoculate yearly if you live in the country as acquired immunity wanes quickly.

Vaccines come in separate components.

My dogs, living in the country, get DH every three years and LP every year.

Old dogs, whose immune systems may be compromised, may benefit from all components every year.

[The Dogmother]

What dogs do you have DA?

[Old Speckled Hen]

My two last winter

 

 

Your Ruby is gorgeous.

Some Saluki there?

[The Dogmother]

Awww, gorgeous border collies, very intelligent. My last lurcher had border collie in her .

 

Yup, she's saluki/greyhound/whippet/rough collie. The saluki bit makes her mad as a bag of frogs and harder to train, but we're getting there. She turned one year old last Saturday.

 

You'll be pleased to hear that she was more up to running around this evening and not coughing so much. I'm hoping for a good night's sleep

[Old Speckled Hen]

Hope you both had a better night

[The Dogmother]

We did thanks, will post in my thread, as am derailing this one

 

[Blackrocksrock]

What "Ooops, word censored!"ody tells you.

The Distemper vac should last 10 years.

Hepatitis is probably lifelong.

Leptospirosis needs reinforcing EVERY year.

Parvovirus is lifelong if you live in the city where field virus reinforces immunity, but it is really important to inoculate yearly if you live in the country as acquired immunity wanes quickly.

Vaccines come in separate components.

My dogs, living in the country, get DH every three years and LP every year.

Old dogs, whose immune systems may be compromised, may benefit from all components every year.

 

 

Thats what the regime for intervet vaccines are now - except Parvo. So Lepto every year and dhlppi every 3rd year. PArvo is every 3rd year also now.

 

We have been doing this for quite some time so no need to have all every year nowadays.

[Lewis]

What "Ooops, word censored!"ody tells you.

The Distemper vac should last 10 years.

Hepatitis is probably lifelong.

Leptospirosis needs reinforcing EVERY year.

Parvovirus is lifelong if you live in the city where field virus reinforces immunity, but it is really important to inoculate yearly if you live in the country as acquired immunity wanes quickly.

Vaccines come in separate components.

My dogs, living in the country, get DH every three years and LP every year.

Old dogs, whose immune systems may be compromised, may benefit from all components every year.

Thank you

Its interesting that they're given every year, but can see why they would be from the vet and pharmaceuticals point of view.

[Old Speckled Hen]

Thank you

Its interesting that they're given every year, but can see why they would be from the vet and pharmaceuticals point of view.

 

Lewis, it's not that simple however

Vaccines have got more sophisticated and disease patterns have changed. There is now much more information available and vaccine programs can even be tailored to locality.

BUT the clinician's hands are tied. He or she relies on the huge legal back-up available from these multinational drug companies should there be any vaccine failure provided that the data sheet recommendations are followed.

If you do any creative interpretation you're sunk if the pet then goes on to develop the disease. This is just as likely to be due to a lack of immune response as to inappropriate administration but to the sue-happy client this is of no concern.

Vaccine companies have their own agenda and if .0000001% of trial animals need inoculating at yearly intervals and the rest at three yearly intervals .......Guess what

 

Vaccines will have to go on being over-dosed in the hope that no real harm is done.

There is an increasingly effective lobby against this and things are improving.

[Lesley]

I think I need to read a bit more about it

 

I never even thought about invalidating the insurance. We've already been able to claim back over £300 because Jazz had to spend a day having skin tests for allergy so the insurance has already been worth it.

 

It took me a while to check on the insurance and I needed to change Jazz's to include travel to Europe - her insurance would be invalidated if we didn't have her vaccinated....... thought I'd come back and say.