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[Ziggy]

I'm not the kind to get easily aggravated (well not to the point of writing on here about it anyway), but having just got back from the schoolrun, and having been noticing this for so long, I feel this is really puzzling and I wonder if it's me going insane or a lot of other people not quite with it...

 

The more I look around, whether I am on foot or in the car, the more I see so many pedestrians coming up to roads with their eyes on the floor and crossing without even a glance at the traffic... And they're not kids, they're people in their late/mid teens, and adults. Just today, in one schoolrun, at different places, I saw this happen seven times. The same thing over and over again, one or a group of pedestrians, coming up to a road, whether it'd be a side road with no crossing help or a 'green man' crossing, and just stepping onto the road looking at their shoes or chatting to their friends, without even looking up or in any direction before crossing...

 

Now I am a little of a safety maniac, but surely this isn't a safe way to live?? We have one road near the school which is a cul de sac in which many parents park the time to pick up the kids, and there are traffic lights at the corner, but traffic comes from three other directions too, and then the pedestrian lights also has to turn green obviously, and the time allocated for the little cul de sac is only about ten seconds, as mostly in the day there would only be one car waiting, not a queue of them. So you have to wait for the whole circuit to go, which takes a reasonably long time as two directions are major road, and then you have a few seconds to get out of the side street. Well, invariably, when it's your turn to pull forward, there will be pedestrians stepping right in front of the car, and when they hear you rev your engine a little bit, they glare and slow down and take their time. By the time they are across, the light is red again!!!

The same thing happens for cars turning into the street, from the main road, they always have to stop, while it's green for them, because pedestrians are crossing or even standing chatting on the road. I have noticed a few irrate drivers starting to use their horn, and I did too once with a young group of people, cause they stepped on the road literally as I was turning in and I wanted them to realise it's dangerous... There are not so many cars turning in there, and it's easy for pedestrians to look around and cross safely if nothing is coming, even if the red man is on for them. But they don't even look around, they just cross.

 

It's not just that street, I notice it on any side road, the only road that I see people look when crossing are major road with lots of traffic.

 

Didn't those people get taught to be careful when crossing roads?

I'm all for courtesy, letting pedestrians cross, letting other cars in and all that, and my kids complain I'm too nice and polite and it takes for ever to get anywhere as I'm always stopping to let people in or across, but seeing other people cross without a care for their own life or without any courtesy for traffic around them is really puzzling...

 

Sorry, rant over... it had been simmering for months, good to get it off my chest...

[Leicester_H]

Hi

I completely agree.

I now EXPECT people to cross the road without looking around first.

I'd like to take the 'survival of the fittest' approach (ie the daft ones that don't look get run down) but of course I can't.

Some are listening to music and can't even hear cars coming.

I think Iam the only person who can walk down town without something plugged into my ears!!

 

H

[clootie]

Yep, in total agreement. I only commented on this the other day.

[Mrs Webmuppet]

If I had a pound for every time a pedestrian stepped in front of my car at a particular junction in Ipswich I would be a very wealthy lady! The only time it doesn't happen is when I am on an early shift ( no one else in their right minds is wandering around Ipswich at that stupid hour of the day). I have to approach the junction so carefully now, it's not just the students, it seems to be older people too.

[Yorkshire Pudding]

OH works at a university. If I go to pick him up, I take extra care passing the main front buildings - the students think they're immortal and wander across the busy main road without any heed of traffic. Apparently they think that even double-decker buses will vanish if they just step out and ignore them!

 

I know everyone thinks they're immortal at that age, but the lack of care is amazing.

 

I've come across a few risk-taking cyclists too, recently - scared the life out of me by zipping in and out of traffic without any heed for their own safety or that of anyone around them.

[Ziggy]

I'm glad I'm not the only one finding this puzzling...

I'm always going on and on to the girls, about how their life is precious and taking care when crossing is most important as life can be damaged or lost in an instant of carelessness...

[Woodcat]

hey

 

People do not think before they do things now. Its totally and utterly daft.

 

The worst time i've ever delt with that level of silliness was when on a resonably busy road a car stopped for no apparent reason and with no indicators. I slowed down and stopped behind it and when i became apparent it wasn't going anywhere i indicated and pulled out to go round it. A teenage girl then opened the back door and stepped out into the middle of the other side of the road so directly in my path without looking. i just manage to stop and she then stood in the middle of the road and shouted and screamed at me. I wasn't in a good mood so i slipped the car out of gear to make sure i wouldn't go forward and then reved the car at which point what i assume was her father got out and dragged her out the road appologising.

 

The other thing i have never understood is people pushing buggys out into the road when they are waiting for a lul in traffic so they cross surely the last thing in the world they want to be hit is their child so why push them into the road infront of cars

 

The total lack of inteligent thought that seems to go through most people, drivers and pedestrians, amazes me.

[Paddy]

I agree its not just the young ones, I was driving today and I watched a pensioner step out onto a busy road neither looking one way of the other. Luckily we did all stop - but he crossed the road as though we were in the wrong!

Also a lady with a mobility scooter simply came off the pavement and crossed the road with no sign of indicators.

[docsquid]

It can be even worse if you are cycling because (legal and marked) cycle paths (I don't cycle on the pavement like some others) are often shared with pedestrians who seem not only to all be wearing iPods, but also all have a little doggy on a stretchy lead that wants to wrap itself around your bicycle. And they either can't hear the bell, or ignore it, or look at you as if you are a criminal, and certainly don't do anything about controlling their dogs.

 

I just expect people to step out without warning, but it is still very disconcerting when they do.

[PapaJuliet]

The other thing i have never understood is people pushing buggys out into the road when they are waiting for a lul in traffic so they cross surely the last thing in the world they want to be hit is their child so why push them into the road infront of cars

 

I marshalled at the Cholmondley Pageant of Power last year (the northern take-off of the Goodwood Festival of Speed)

 

We had straw bales on either side of the track and a rope maybe 6 feet back from that designating the "safe" distance to spectate from. Some guy with a buggy wandered up to the rope... and pushed his buggy under the rope so that precious child was well into the... erm... "not safe" area. And he didn't even notice.

 

PJ

[chickric]

It can be even worse if you are cycling because (legal and marked) cycle paths (I don't cycle on the pavement like some others) are often shared with pedestrians who seem not only to all be wearing iPods, but also all have a little doggy on a stretchy lead that wants to wrap itself around your bicycle. And they either can't hear the bell, or ignore it, or look at you as if you are a criminal, and certainly don't do anything about controlling their dogs.

 

I just expect people to step out without warning, but it is still very disconcerting when they do.

 

I agree and have given up using the few bits of cycle path on my way to work and use the road, luckly at the times of day I am on my bike there is not alot of traffic, but more people walking their dogs. The cycle paths are a waste of time, they are very uneven with tree roots pushing up the pavement, lots of broken glass and dog mess

[Geoid]

It can be even worse if you are cycling because (legal and marked) cycle paths (I don't cycle on the pavement like some others) are often shared with pedestrians who seem not only to all be wearing iPods, but also all have a little doggy on a stretchy lead that wants to wrap itself around your bicycle. And they either can't hear the bell, or ignore it, or look at you as if you are a criminal, and certainly don't do anything about controlling their dogs.

 

I just expect people to step out without warning, but it is still very disconcerting when they do.

I agree, people also walk on them to, why? There is a perfectly good pavement to your right....MOVE OUT MY WAY!

[Seagazer]

I must admit that I always assume that the pedestrian is going to step out without looking, it seems to always happen.

 

YS's school had to have a special assembly last week at school on road safety as during the first couple of weeks of school, two Y7 boys were run over in seperate accidents. I think for a lot of them, like my son, its the first time they've walked to school on their own. I've seen his friends just walk into the road chatting to each other without looking.

[Egluntyne]

I live near a big comprehensive school. Come hometime, most weeks, there is the sound of an ambulance siren, and a massive queue of traffic as yet another child has been knocked down. There are two pedestrian crossings, and a couple of crossing points with an 'island' in the middle of the road, but they are largely ignored as children wander across a busy A road either gossipping or with their earphones in.

 

And yet they have had road safety drummed into them from an early age.

[Leicester_H]

The other thing i have never understood is people pushing buggys out into the road when they are waiting for a lul in traffic so they cross surely the last thing in the world they want to be hit is their child so why push them into the road infront of cars

Yes - they seem to use the buggy as a sort of weapon

[Saronne]

I'm worried about those who send or read texts while they walk or wait at a crossing. They really don't appear to be paying attention to the world around them!

 

 

Saronne x

[docsquid]

I'm worried about those who send or read texts while they walk or wait at a crossing. They really don't appear to be paying attention to the world around them!

 

 

Saronne x

 

I'm even more alarmed by people who send texts while they are driving!

 

Slightly OT: at one of the step aerobics classes I used to teach there were two regular attendees who spent most of the class just stepping up and down a bit, completely ignoring the music and choreography, because they were texting their mates! I asked them to stop (for safety reasons) but they just carried on anyway.

[Ziggy]

The buggy thing really gets me... actually I became a safety maniac when DD1 was born... I remember her lying all sweet into her rock-a-tot (not sure they're still called that... britax baby seat) mounted on the pushchair frame, and as a brand new young mum taking her on walks... well I've always lived in a city, but suddenly crossing even empty roads became a totally new thing, looking around in different directions lots of times before daring to push my precious child on the road in front of me... I would have preferred to pull her behind me!! (OK, I'm a bit of the opposite extreme from the careless people)

 

Now I still insist on many rules, not crossing unless it's 'green man', and even then being careful (bikes here don't stop at green lights, or few do... most think red lights are only for cars and I've had my kids nearly hit more than once), and even things like not walking too close to the road on the pavement especially when there is a bus lane... I once saw a man hit by the side mirror of a bus that was driving very close to the pavement, he got hit right in the back of the head, and that picture stayed with me till now...

 

We have a shared pavement near school, marked half pedestrian, half cycle track, and there is a bit of an aggravation war going there... with wrongs both ways and rights both ways... some bikes zoom very fast, not caring that toddlers are walking there and that a school side pavement is only about 80cm wide (you can't meet anyone without having to proceed in single file, not easy when holding todder's hands), and there are many pedestrians who walk that route every day and insist on strolling lazily right on the cycle track half!!

 

I can't help thinking, if aliens came to observe earth traffic, they'd run off thinking everyone down here is plain bonkers!