Egluntyne Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 Ask him to put his complaint in writing, with a doctor's letter in support of his claim about his Mrs's allergy. That'll stop his gallop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwing Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 How old are the silkies? if they are young they'll go through a few changes of feathers till they get their adult ones then stop shedding them so freely You'll have a problem with loose feathers every year when the chooks moult though Personally I'd ignore them for now, even if the allergy is proven they cant do a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffs Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 I think you might struggle to introduce your little silkies to the hybrids for them to all live together in a to be honest. Just my opinion based on my experience. I know, I'm just wangling for a When I get one, I'll keep the eglus for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffs Posted August 4, 2011 Share Posted August 4, 2011 How old are the silkies? if they are young they'll go through a few changes of feathers till they get their adult ones then stop shedding them so freely You'll have a problem with loose feathers every year when the chooks moult though Personally I'd ignore them for now, even if the allergy is proven they cant do a lot they're POL or thereabouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffy chick Posted August 5, 2011 Share Posted August 5, 2011 I think you might struggle to introduce your little silkies to the hybrids for them to all live together in a to be honest. Just my opinion based on my experience. I know, I'm just wangling for a When I get one, I'll keep the eglus for sure. Good plan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffs Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'm fuming. Today my mum and I were sat in the garden with the chooks, and I could hear the woman next door going 'look at all these chicken feathers, they're everywhere, it's disgusting', I just laughed it off. She was angrily sweeping at the fence, which seemed strange, as I thought if you were clearing something up, then you'd sweep it away so as to bag it up and get rid of it. I have no feathers in my garden, and none of my girls are moulting. Their next door neighbours, however, have a family of seagulls nesting on their roof, and you can see feathers floating about on the roof tiles, so my guess is those are the feathers that they get in their garden. I can't imagine any non existant feathers in my garden suddenly launching themselves 6feet in the air and clearing the fence onto their patio. Anyway she carried on moaning, sweeping loudly, repeating herself about how disgusting it was, looking at us through a hole in the fence. Next thing, I heard her say 'I need to disinfect this, it's dirty, disgusting', and a second later bleach/water solution was gushing through my fence, onto my garden and into my plants. It smelt VERY strongly too. She made a point of doing it right where we were sat and along the fence, she did it about 3 times, I can't count how many bucketsful she must have used. I am furious. I'll have to keep the girls away from that side of the garden for a while now, I don't want them consuming bleach. I'm not going to let her dictate where they get to free range though, I feel so angry but I can't confront her because I think I'll say something I regret. Is she allowed to pour bleach onto my garden? Who would I talk to about getting her told off for doing that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
percy049 Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Perhaps you could enquire where you stand in this with your local police? If shes purposely putting bleach in your garden, intending it to haerm your hens, then it is a crime. Have you told her that it is not your hens leaving the feathers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffs Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Perhaps you could enquire where you stand in this with your local police? If shes purposely putting bleach in your garden, intending it to haerm your hens, then it is a crime.Have you told her that it is not your hens leaving the feathers? Yes, it's not really the feathers, she just hates me having chickens, she uses the feathers as an excuse. I'm not sure this is a matter for the police, so much as the council or the RSPCA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavysqueak Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Organisations like the Environment Agency fine companies for allowing chemicals such as sheep dip or fertilizers into the environment, so I'm not sure that deliberately pouring bleach onto your garden would be allowed, surely! What a rotter! I forget to be grateful when the dog next door is whining so loudly that I can't have my lie-in on a Sunday morning - but at least my next-door neighbour is an animal lover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennym Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 What a piece of work she is. What about a restraining order, stopping her from dumping chemicals (or anything, for that matter) through your fence? Maybe that's taking things a bit far - and I don't really know how they work or how much it would cost to get one - but she is definitely overstepping the mark there, and it can't be legal. Of course that won't help neighbourly relations and some sort of rational discussion would be better, but failing that you've just got to stop it however you can. I'm sure bleach and chickens don't mix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffs Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 The way I see it... IF she is allergic to feathers, and that's a big if, in the case of my chooks, then her minor sneezing and runny eyes is nothing, compared to KILLING my chickens if they were to ingest bleach. She's totally out of line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I'd recommend a call to your local Environmental Health dept. They will be able to investigate and can advise you on your best course of action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Offer her some eggs and try to have a reasonable chat with her first. It might make a difference when she realises where the feathers are coming from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffs Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 We offered her eggs a while ago. And she knows about the seagulls, as her neighbours have had to have lots of spikes put up due to the seagulls chewing through their tv aerial etc. (even I know about it, and they're a couple of doors down). Her husband told me to move the chickens as his wife is 'allergic to all animals, dogs, cats, feathers...' , I'm feeling pretty down about it now actually, knowing I live next to someone so neurotic they would cause harm to animals, whatever their motivation. It makes me feel very sad and slightly nauseous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
migsy Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I really feel for you Squiffs. I had a crazy neighbour which made me realise that some people in this world are simply barking mad in an unpleasant way. I don't think there is any reasoning with these people. Unfortunately, I can only offer you my sympathies as I ended up moving to get away from my nutter of a neighbour (not the only reason for moving but she was added into the equation). Neighbours like that cause a great deal of unnecessary stress. They don't change and other neighbours generally suffer their craziness too. The only way I could deal with my ex neighbour was by ignoring her completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennym Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 I've just thought of something you might want to consider before taking any action - I happened to be discussing this with a neighbour a few days ago. If you do anything 'official' then I think you might have to reveal that to any future potential buyers of the property. If/when your father wants to sell, any action you take now might come back to haunt him. I'm not sure of the details of this and I've only heard it second-hand. I don't know if it includes complaints to RSPCA, environmental health etc or just police complaints. Anyway, it's something you might want to consider when deciding if/where to make a complaint, although perhaps not as important or immediate as protecting your chickens from nasty chemicals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchHazel Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I think you should go round there and just say, as calmly as you can (practice out loud beforehand) that you were out in the garden the other day when she was bleaching her fence, and that a lot of the solution came through onto your garden and your plants. (If they were edible plants, tell her you can no longer eat them). Ask her to be more careful when disinfecting her fence in future. I would also be tempted to say that you know she is complaining about feathers in her garden, and does she realise that these are feathers from the gulls on the roof not your chickens feathers. Sometimes people need it spelled out to them. She's living in her own little bubble and is seeing what she wants to see, and is probably living a paranoid fantasy of her own. From her point of view you are probably deliberately putting feathers on her side of the fence when you KNOW they make her ill. You need to try and nip this now. I promise you, if you don't, iit will escalate and become impossible to deal with rationally. You will end up so miserable you will have to move, or something will snap. I've had a nuisance neighbour, I didn't tackle it early enough, I ended up on her doorstep screaming at her (as, it turns out, did the neighbour the other side as well on a different occasion, and that escalated into a punch up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Sounds an utter nutter to me - she should be told re the bleach as if you had say herbs there you could have been made ill. Some people are paranoid about everything. Dont know what to suggest - I feel what you do in your own garden so long as it doesnt harm others is your business. At our old house the neighbours had this obnoxious child who bullied ES who was only about 4 by throwing jars at him. I stormed round there and did the fishwife bit - thankfully no punch up but I think the whole street heard. Neighbours can be a curse or a blessing. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 When I suggested contacting Env Health, it was more for advice than to make a formal report. They are happy to help out and can give constructive advice in these situations. They won't escalate unless there is a public hazard or unless you make a formal complaint. They are really nice, so worth giving them a ring rather than keep stewing about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffs Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Sounds an utter nutter to me - she should be told re the bleach as if you had say herbs there you could have been made ill. She did get my rosemary plant It was so well established, too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffs Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 When I suggested contacting Env Health, it was more for advice than to make a formal report. They are happy to help out and can give constructive advice in these situations. They won't escalate unless there is a public hazard or unless you make a formal complaint. They are really nice, so worth giving them a ring rather than keep stewing about it. Yes, everyone I've asked about the situation seems to agree this is the route I should take. I'll give them a ring on my lunch break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchHazel Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 She did get my rosemary plant It was so well established, too I would use that as a reason to go and talk to her. Tell her that she has poured bleach all over your rosemary plant and it is now unuseable, please could she be more careful next time she decides to disinfect with bleach. And then say "By the way, you do know that the feathers in your garden are from the gulls, not from my chickens, don't you?" I wouldn't particularly mention your chickens otherwise, because it will be hard to keep your temper (Voice of experience). If she mentions anything negative about them, I would say in a 'oh my goodness this has just occurred to me' tone: "Oh my goodness - were you hoping to poison my chickens then? Oh gosh, is *that* why you poured bleach through my fence?! Oh my god, that puts a completely different light on things!" and walk off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackian Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 (edited) She did get my rosemary plant It was so well established, too I would use that as a reason to go and talk to her. Tell her that she has poured bleach all over your rosemary plant and it is now unuseable, please could she be more careful next time she decides to disinfect with bleach. And then say "By the way, you do know that the feathers in your garden are from the gulls, not from my chickens, don't you?" I wouldn't particularly mention your chickens otherwise, because it will be hard to keep your temper (Voice of experience). If she mentions anything negative about them, I would say in a 'oh my goodness this has just occurred to me' tone: "Oh my goodness - were you hoping to poison my chickens then? Oh gosh, is *that* why you poured bleach through my fence?! Oh my god, that puts a completely different light on things!" and walk off. I like this one.. After having problems my self with a neighbour (her sons drums not my chickens) My advice is DON'T STOOP TO HER LEVE L .., keep calm and nice .Have you a neighbour maybe the otherside who is on your side? Edited September 26, 2011 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedusA Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Me too. Excellent response! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cavysqueak Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I had a thought last night after reading this thread ... My 'feather' allergy is not an allergy to the feathers, but an allergy to the dust that stays in the feather cushions / pillows and whooshes out when you sit / lie on the offending item. So can you be directly allergic to feathers, or is it just an indirect dust allergy? Anyway, surely a few feathers in the vastness of a garden isn't going to be enough to cause a problem? Maybe, due to my bad cat allergy, I can complain to all of the neighbours and say that their cats can't come anywhere near my garden?!?!? I like the ideas put forward by the other Omleteers. If there is one thing you can't do its ignore it, but for your own blood pressure as well as peace of mind you need to (try) to approach the situation calmy. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...