Sheilaz Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 There wasn't a "Buy It Now" for £100 option was there? Still he'll have more time to work on the mark 3 now.. (Sorry!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinnamon Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 This is what has happened with this listing. The seller has cancelled all the bids,& stopped the auction. Whether this is because its no longer for sale,or its broken,or he is going to relist,or because of all the questions he is getting I don't know,but this is what must have happened as it has not been stopped by eBay. Or,he was made an offer which he accepted,& sold it off eBay,& then cancelled his bids & ended the item....... We shall see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Someone's bought it to put their spade in no doubt BBx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhen Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 Whatever he has done with it is , I think , up to him. He was put right about the eglu connection and re-listed. He CAN insulate it - he says so in his description (I read it there) and I still don;t understand the continued criticism of his efforts to keep his hens warm, safe and free from red mites without spending what is. lets face it , a small fortune on a nice piece of moulded plastic with a fun label on the side!! Don't get me wrong I love my eglu and will talk about the brilliant design to anyone,BUT I will not lampoon this guy for doing his own thing on a much much tighter budget. No I havent been about for a while Sheila - too busy doing stuff with my dogs (oh and work!!) I peer in now and again to see what is happening! I just do feel that the thread was getting a little bit unpleasant about the whole thing when it really doesn;t need to be. He wasn;t doing any harm to his hens or (once he re-listed ) to eglu. Or to anyone on this Forum! Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 well said Helen - a dazzling burst of common sense. I have a great picture in my mind of your mother's goat living in an overturned dustbin!!!! It sounds like a really positive experience of animal-caring in your childhood! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley-Jean Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I have to agree with you Helen ! We must not forget that many people are not in the privileged position we are in being able to afford an eglu, and if on a tight budget must use a little imagination to create an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhen Posted June 29, 2006 Share Posted June 29, 2006 I have a great picture in my mind of your mother's goat living in an overturned dustbin!!!! It sounds like a really positive experience of animal-caring in your childhood! Filled with straw it was really cosy! And easy to clean! I learned a lot from my Mum about animal care - hands on. Most of them arrived from people who didn;t want or couldn't keep them any more and my mother was and still is a soft touch. We just fitted another mouth (and feathery/furry or hairy body ) in She now has a collie that I brought back from an agility show I went to wheil on holiday in Scotland last year. He was going to be shot by the farmer because he was no good with sheep......one quick phone call later and he was in the back of my van on his way down here in Dorset and she had the rescue collie she wanted (but couldn;t have from any animal rescue centre becasue she now lives in a flat with no garden not the tied farm cottages i grew up in) and he has a great life going all kinds of places with her (and doesn;t suffer in the least from not having a garden!!!!) And we both feel enormously pleased that he wasn;t shot. This is another example of 'thinking outside the box' in terms of animal care, if you like. She had tried to re-home from various rescue centres round here and all of them had said 'No' becasue she does not have the garden. But Scout is very happy and has adapted from a northern farmyard (living outside in all weathers I believe) to a southern garden-less flat so qucikly it was obvious he was thrilled to bits about it! A happy ending. *sigh* We must not forget that many people are not in the privileged position we are in being able to afford an eglu Yup! Well put L-J (sorry I can;t get the quote to work!!) I have made my point so I''ll shut up now. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 She now has a collie that I brought back from an agility show I went to wheil on holiday in Scotland last year. that's a great story about the collie. We've always had border collies in the family - because of my mum - I now have an old (14yrs) fat one (who survived being run over last year!) My mum has two small, skinny wiry ones. She used to do lots of obedience and went a long way up the obedience ladder back in the 70s and 80s - it took all her free time (and lots of mine!) - travelling up and down the country to windswept, muddy fields with obedience rings staked out!! when my dad died she took up tracking (having lost touch with the obedience world) - and some agility on the side. It was a whole new skill to learn for her and the dogs - so it was really good for her. Also it gave her a reason to get up and go out and to meet a whole new bunch of people.. unfortunately, the youngest of the two collies snapped both the tendons in her back leg last summer - and so her tracking and the agility days are over. It was done simply twisting as she turned to chase a tennis ball - (cost an arm and a leg in surgery I believe...) what sort of dog(s) do you have for the agility?? Phil PS - she got the youngest one (Topper) when she was out doing Riding for the Disabled. as they were trotting round the field the y noticed that the farmer was sittinmg in his landrover and hadn't moved for about an hour - they went to investigate and he'd had a massive heart attack and died. they called the son - and he (eventually) showed them a barn with a collie and a litter of pups.. "I guess I'll have to drown 'em now" he said (chirpily) - so my mum ended up with a new dog - which (at the time) she didn't really need! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheilaz Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 This thread has taken an unexpected but very welcome turn. Let's keep it to collie/dog stories. I've been really heartened to hear about Scout from Helen, and Phil's mother too. I only had imaginery dogs as a child, but they were always Border Collies first, sometimes joined by other breeds from my I Spy book. Any more interesting backgrounds from dog owners out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley-Jean Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I'm afraid that it was a border collie cross which has put me off dogs for life When my eldest son was a baby my in-laws got this cute little puppy, he was always a "nasty" dog. I couldn't go to the house without wearing long boots as his instinct, which the in-laws never took the trouble to train out of him, was to nip at the heels of anyone passing. I always had to keep my child either in arms or in his baby bouncer on the table out of dog reach and would NEVER have left him alone with the dog. When he became a toddler the dog had a few nips at him drawing blood on a couple of occasions and would often bare his teeth even if you looked at him wrongly. My in-laws thought the dog so funny when it chased me up the garden biting at my boots. I know this is not the usual behaviour from a dog but it has left me feeling that no dog can be entirely trusted, they all have their innate instincts as a predator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 I used to have a lurcher, who had a good bit of border collie in her. She was very obedient and fantastic with Rosie - sitting under her pram when it was in the garden, and letting Rosie pull herself up on her fur when she was learning to walk. Having said that, I am well aware of canine instincts and would never leave any dog, no matter how well trained with a small child, as children of that age just don't understand not to poke and pull, and I could understand how a dog might react (instinctively) in that situation. It's not fair to put the dog in that situation. If the dog is unreliable, then it is best kept away from smaler shildren just in case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieP Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 My dog Rags... was a rescue dog. She was tied by somebody to a pylon in the middle of a field and left. When she was found and taken to a dogs home, the vet thought she had probably been tied there for over a week. The piece of rope had gone almost completely through her neck and her feet were raw and bloody from getting in tangles with it. They couldn't tell how old she was, as some of her teeth had dropped out where she had started to try to chew through the rope. She was in the vet hospital for 6 weeks. We went for an off the cuff "visit" to the dogs' home when she had been in there a week and when I got a peep of her I cried and cried and told OH that I wanted that dog. The vets thought she wouldn't pull through. Anyway, to cut a very long story short, she did: We took her home 10 weeks later. Having no name, she was called "Rags" as a nod at the totally tatty old state she was in. She is still a bit nervous of strangers, and will not tolerate any kind of collar or lead, or being brushed, but who could blame her? She is an absolute star: She just walks by your side, does as she is asked and has never given us a day's regret. We have had her 13 years! Quite a dog eh? By the way, I am sure she has a large part of bearded collie in her. SHe's certainly got the collie brains! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen & co. Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 What a poppet AnnieP Both our dogs are rescue dogs, Holly had been beaten and still cowers if a hoover flex passes her or something is dropped close to her, she used to run away from the door if anyone came to visit! she lets the children roll on her and play with her , but I still wouldn't trust any dog with a baby or toddler. Alfie is a diferent kettle of fish too confident, tries to be boss, (fat chance!) and rather playful at times, fine when children know him, but when Sarah had her birthday party at home last week he was kept away from a hoard of giggly little girls for his safety as well as theirs! I love our dogs to bits but always assume people don't like them unless they say different, as I don't like other peoples dogs running at me or the children when we are out, usually with the owner saying something like 'oh he only wants to play!' my response is 'but I'm afraid I don't!' Perhaps I'm turning into Victor Meldrew karen x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhen Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 what sort of dog(s) do you have for the agility?? Hi Phil, I have two jrs and a b.c. though I only compete seriously with one jr - Henry and the b.c Poppy. As your mum discovered (and you when little!) it kind of takes over and I spend from march to late September going to shows every weekend travelling the length and breadth of the country (hence a van all 'caged out' and ...erm a caravan too recently ).....It IS a very sociable hobby and my dogs love it. I am so sorry to hear about your mum's collie's tendons - that must have been horrible for her to cope with. I assume her girlie- girl can still get about and enjoy life if not agility? Hard keeping a collie mentally stimulated whne they can't do a lot of running about. Your mum sounds like a soft touch too - with her wide ranging experience over the years she sounds like one of the best people a collie could hope to have as a human in those circumstances. I'm afraid that it was a border collie cross which has put me off dogs for life Hi L-J Unfortunately most b.cs and their crosses need to work. That is their primary impulse. Secondly they want to please. As an owner of one I had to choose a job for her that pleased me and so we are both happy. Poppy is an RSPCA job (abandoned on a piece of string but nothing like poor Rags (bless)) at 5 months. Almost certainly she had been abandoned because of her high work drive - she MUST herd, she MUST use her brain. She can't stop herself. I channel it. I gave her lots of positive children experience and now she thinks they are great but so many collies/crosses aren't. It has to be consciously trained. So many people get b.cs becasue they are so clever and assume they will work it all out for themselves - well they WILL work something out but it won;t be want we want! And they can have us trained before we even know it if we are not quick enough. They really are beautiful dogs - it is such a shame that you had those bad experiences. Hi Annie and Karen Annie - how beautiful is Rags??!!!! What a fabulous outcome for her. There must ba whole load of us on this forum who have rehomed/rescue dogs and we have all found out how rewarding it is to turn a little life around! My jack russell Henry is a resuce too - left in a garden all day, becoming bored, aggressive and frustrated - at 14 months they saw sense and handed him to margaret green rehoming and I got him! he qualified for Crufts agility last year and has just doen so again for next March. he is an Advanced agility dog - he loves his life (well apart from when he has to give his ball back! ) Pop I have mentioned above but she has done well too agility wise - competeing in Novice final at Olympia in Dec 2005 in front of nearly 10,000 people. Everyday when I watch them charging about on our walks it gives me a thrill knowing how good their lives are compared to how it could have been when they were younger. Karen - my lot have been trained not to charge up to people too - for the same reasoning you mention. Apart from anything else they are usually muddy and/or wet!! Most people are quite hurt that they won;t stop and say hello. I have to explain and then people are fine. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxhen Posted June 30, 2006 Share Posted June 30, 2006 Annie P - I love your website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Maxhen is not wrong about agility taking over your life - I see more of her on the forum now the season is in full swing than I do in "real life" (and she lives 5 mins walk away!) Whilst we are talking about dogs, does anyone want a Shih-tzu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnieP Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Its gone very quiet Mel................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mel (& Paul) Posted July 1, 2006 Share Posted July 1, 2006 Bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 I always taught Belle not to jump up at people, and she was mostly good. Rosie has always learned not to stroke anyones dog without asking them first. Strangely she has recently developed an aversion to big dogs - don't know where that one came from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 shall I send Molly up to you Clare? Molly'd be more than willing to have someone throw sticks for the day...... ......or kick a ball ......or throw small stones ......or play tugger with her rope toy ......or have tickles ......and cuddles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 It'd be a joy to have her Andrew, I promise to wash her after she's got all muddy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 oh she'd love that too! She doesn't do having a bath she just get's the hose pipe aimed at her occasionally and this weather is perfect for that (the chooks seem to like it too) I'll try and put the video I took from my phone onto photobucket and post a link here of Molly getting a good soaking! It's so funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dogmother Posted July 3, 2006 Share Posted July 3, 2006 That's funny Andrew. Belle used to drive me mad if I was watering the garden with the hose - she'd go frantic trying to snap at the water and loved it in her face, strangely she never really liked baths though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
