Seagazer Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Well, I'm keeping my daughter under lock and key until she's 35 anyway !! Good luck with that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 :lol: I can see rope ladders being flung out the the bedroom window 35 might be stretching it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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laurmurf Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Just an update, ED had her first jab in early December and just had her second one. Her final jab is in early June - then all done. No reactions whatsoever and she is very pleased that she's done it. (i'm nearly weeping with relief!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgirl73 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Just came across this thread. Makes very interesting reading. I have a 12 year old, who I presume will be offered the jab very soon (she's in yr7). I have no problems whatsoever about her getting this jab whatsoever, I'd rather she was protected against the main virus than not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebe Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 If it helps anyone, me and OH decided to pay to have both our girls "done" as at 19 and 17, they are too old to get the NHS version (although it now turns out that 17 yr old would be done in a year or so). They both had gardisil and had no adverse reactions at all, and I'm glad we have reduced one significant cancer risk for them. They were both keen to have it, but its obviously an individual decision. I'd be less keen for boys to be done - its girls that face the risk, therefore the choice to be vaccinated is for them to make, IMHO. However, I think I'm a bit jaundiced by the MMR vaccination, which I blame for my son's diabetes. I'd have preferred it if they stuck to vaccinating girls against rubella at puberty (as was done when I was 13), rather than vaccinating boys to protect the girls who were n't vaccinated. tricky subject and perhaps the most important thing to come out of this is that it is very wrong to bounce parents into quick decisions on such an important matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 If it helps anyone, me and OH decided to pay to have both our girls "done" as at 19 and 17, they are too old to get the NHS version (although it now turns out that 17 yr old would be done in a year or so). They both had gardisil and had no adverse reactions at all, and I'm glad we have reduced one significant cancer risk for them. They were both keen to have it, but its obviously an individual decision. I'd be less keen for boys to be done - its girls that face the risk, therefore the choice to be vaccinated is for them to make, IMHO. However, I think I'm a bit jaundiced by the MMR vaccination, which I blame for my son's diabetes. I'd have preferred it if they stuck to vaccinating girls against rubella at puberty (as was done when I was 13), rather than vaccinating boys to protect the girls who were n't vaccinated. tricky subject and perhaps the most important thing to come out of this is that it is very wrong to bounce parents into quick decisions on such an important matter. Well done for sorting this out privately, Phoebe, I was very close to that and was pursuing my letter writing campaign while also trying to find a private clinic to give my ED the jab when news came through from my PCT that my daughter would 'qualify' for the jab in time. I'm not sure I agree about boys though; I have two and as they could either be carriers of the virus and infect any girlfriends they have (who haven't been vaccinated) or as adult gay men get infected themselves with oral cancers then I would prefer they were vaccinated... that's my next letter writing campaign! I am sorry to hear about your son's diabetes, that must be so worrying for you all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebe Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 thanks laurmurf; its a pain; he developed it at 18m and he is now 14, and he copes really well with it (better than me) but it did seem suspicious to me that he developed a huge lumpy rash 6 weeks after MMR jab, and then subsequently, diabetes, with no history of it in the family. I guess I will never know, but its just a worry of mine that without 3 live viruses injected at once, he might not have deveoped diabetes. Take your point about boys and CC though and perhaps I'll agree one day ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lesley Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 thanks laurmurf; its a pain; he developed it at 18m and he is now 14, and he copes really well with it (better than me) but it did seem suspicious to me that he developed a huge lumpy rash 6 weeks after MMR jab, and then subsequently, diabetes, with no history of it in the family. I guess I will never know, but its just a worry of mine that without 3 live viruses injected at once, he might not have deveoped diabetes. Take your point about boys and CC though and perhaps I'll agree one day ! That's what bothers me as well Phoebe - it's not so much what they are vaccinated against, it's the fact that they now give so many in one go. Lauren and Jake have only just had their MMR - at age 8 and nearly 11. There is an epidemic of Measles in South Warwickshire. Had the different vaccines still been available separately, then they would have been vaccinated long ago. I feel it is unfair to only give parents the choice of all or nothing - there is nowhere in this country where you can pay privately to have the MMR separtely. (or there wasn't when we were looking) That should be a parents choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tina C Posted January 11, 2009 Share Posted January 11, 2009 L had seperate jabs for MMR and although all the evidence points towards the MMR being safe we had our reasons and I am still glad we took the decision to vaccinate separately - and space them out too, even though it cost us a fortune. I think the rubella jab should still be a puberty thing too. Even if you have had the jab you should still have a blood test if you are thinking of getting pregnant as you may not be immune. Herd immunity is fine but why should the responsible people have to do something to protect the less responsible (I do agree with this up to a point but am against children being given so many jabs at such an early age). Back to the cervical cancer vaccination I am still undecided on this one I have to admit so am pleased to see the topic revived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I've just heard about Jade Goody on the news - her cervical cancer has spread to her liver and other organs. Whatever one thinks of the girl and her 'celebrity' lifestyle it does break my heart that a young woman, mother to two little boys, is so very poorly. She's only in her early twenties - imagine if she'd had the chance to get this vaccination 10 years ago: imagine if she said yes and where she'd be now. Our GP's practice nurse is so disappointed by the lack of take up of this vaccine from 6th form girls: it has me in tears to think of just one of them getting this awful disease because it just didn't seem important at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagazer Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I think it is very terrible that this has happened to such a young woman. Sadly she isn't the only one. In the news recently there have been a few stories of young women dying because they were too young for smear tests or other types of tests. So often with some illnesses you are told that you are 'too young' to have that illness but sometimes that is not true. There should be more proactive screening for cervical, breast and prostate cancer at earlier ages and it should be more regular. Edited to add I think I read that Jade had had problems 'down below' for a long time and had been to hospital/doctors several times but was obviously not tested thoroughly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 SOrry I haven't time to read whole thread so sorry if already said. In December 2007 we were in Sydney Austrtalia where they have already been vacinating and are now doing Panorama type programs & newspaper articles aboy rth Appaulling life destroying side effects! They are no longer vaccinating A people are suing. By the way Egg drop Syndrome is a notifiable desease in Australia and says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saronne Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Sorry, Sandyhas3chucks...not trying to be funny, but, are you talking about cervical cancer or egg drop syndrome?! Saronne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 BMJ report of Published 2 December 2008, doi:10.1136/bmj.a2642 Cite this as: BMJ 2008;337:a2642 Research: Hypersensitivity reactions to human papillomavirus vaccine in Australian schoolgirls: retrospective cohort study Results: Thirty five schoolgirls with suspected hypersensitivity to the quadrivalent vaccine were reported in 2007, after more than 380 000 vaccine doses had been administered in schools in Victoria and South Australia. Only three of the 25 evaluated schoolgirls had probable hypersensitivity to the quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccine after 380 000 doses had been administered in schools. Conclusion: True hypersensitivity to the quadrivalent human papillomavirus vaccine in Australian schoolgirls was uncommon and most tolerated subsequent doses Australia is still vaccinating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 interesting? that's not what their media was saying when we were there? I suppose the reseaerch was done by th pharacutical companies that make the money? much like here? the quote re EDS was an example as to the proble,s vacines MAY cause! there were at least half a dozen girls on the panorama probram, and it was a VERY sad thing to watch. The vry end said they were stopping! Maybe diferent states again, there are many diferences. BEst to all be aware of these thiungs, I feel the studies should be conducted by TOTALLY independent groups. (on all matters not especially this, as vaccination is a bit of "thing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 A colleague of mine at work was diagnosed with cervical cancer the day before her 27th birthday. She had (the most awful) treatment and a full hysterectomy but came back to work recently, hopefully clear of the disease. She's been an inspiration to the rest of us and is campaigning to raise awareness of the disease. She's been in loads of newspapers and magazines. http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/spectrum/Life-saver.4529989.jp http://living.scotsman.com/features/39I-just-wanted-to-know.4902050.jp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 cool look at them later loke I say, need to be informed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alis girls Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I dont have daughters but I would go for vaccine I think. However you need time to think about this, 24-48 hrs aint enough. Whilst not being a fan of jade Goody I do feel for such a young woman with litttle children. The only good thing if u can call it that is that a lot of younger women are coming in for smears. I worked at Royal marsden yrs ago as a nurse and was shocked how many young women were patients with advanced cervical cancer. I dont know if they had smears or not, you can hardly ask it when someone is facing death can u? However I still come across girls and women who refuse smears. Sometimes they have a reason other times they dont. It may be a history of abuse, rape whatever. You can only advise. Yes the vaccine will protect against some HPV but condoms are the best protection in all and until young people learn to protect themselves we will not irradicate this killer. All I would stress to all ladies over 25 -65 get your smears done, we've seen it all before and unless you have summat extra we dont bat an eyelid. Younger and older women if you have unusual symptons but aren't in age range SEE YOUR DR and insist on investigation DONT BE FOBBED OFF. And can I stress to postmenopausal women if you get a period after 2 yrs of not getting one THAT AINT NORMAL SEE YOUR DR I am still gob smacked at the number of women who think its normal. I will now get off my soapbox. Apologes for rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyhas3chucks Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 not a rant! very usefull advice. & insight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I agree, very useful info . Thank you . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurmurf Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 A colleague of mine at work was diagnosed with cervical cancer the day before her 27th birthday. She had (the most awful) treatment and a full hysterectomy but came back to work recently, hopefully clear of the disease. She's been an inspiration to the rest of us and is campaigning to raise awareness of the disease. She's been in loads of newspapers and magazines. http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/spectrum/Life-saver.4529989.jp http://living.scotsman.com/features/39I-just-wanted-to-know.4902050.jp Thanks for posting the links, ANH - your colleague is a very strong young woman and it's fantastic that she's telling her story. If she convinces just one woman to get a smear test who wouldn't have done, or just one girl to get the HPV vaccine, then she's potentially saved lives. I was diagnosed with cervical cancer at 24 at a routine family planning clinic appointment. I'd never even heard of cervical cancer and in those days no one knew what caused it. The cancer was caught really early and the treatment worked for me: I am so blessed to have 4 beautiful children. My oldest daughter was first in the queue to have the vaccine - i would be tortured if I didn't get this for her and she got this preventible cancer later in life. I understand that for some people vaccination is an emotive subject. i would just recommend they do lots of research: not just into alternative therapies and theories but into scientific ones, such as this one published in the BMJ by completely independent scientists. If you make an informed decision, one you know you are absolutely confident in, then you will be able to accept the consequences in any direction of that decision. I'll be making a donation to Jo's Trust in thanks for my cure, my daughter's vaccination and all those brave women who are living with this cancer, and for those who are lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiggy Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 I am 23 and would like to have this vaccine done but it is not offered to those over 18 and if I do want to have it done i have to pay £300-£400 As a student I just can't afford this and i object that the government doesn't think people over the age of 18 aren't worth vaccinating - we're still at risk and it could still be prevented but not according to them apparently its all about money Rachel, in fact the government opted for the cheaper vaccine that covers fewer of the HPV strains, they could have chosen another one that covers gential warts too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seagazer Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 ANH - your colleague sounds like a very brave young woman and I wish her every luck in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ain't Nobody Here Posted February 5, 2009 Share Posted February 5, 2009 She is, Ann . She recently had a "wear teal to work" day to raise money for Jo's Trust. She did loads and loads of baking and made little teal ribbons for us to wear. She managed to raise a couple of hundred pounds just from the staff at school . It must be so hard for her - she works with small children every day and just this week a staff member came in with her new baby. Three others are pregnant too. She's really struggling with her weight as well after losing loads before becoming ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
