theherd123 Posted December 5, 2006 Author Share Posted December 5, 2006 There are so many images of Father Christmas around that how are we to really know what he looks like.... unless we all stay up really late on Christmas Eve I'll be so exhausted by then that I'll be in bed by 9:30 and will leave him to come in and deliver pressies u"Ooops, word censored!"served, dressed in red, green or purple, whichever suits him best. I don't mind Looking like Clarets Freddie and im stopping up all night!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Must admit I'd quite like to see the young good looking Father Christmas in question I've only seen it the once but, unless I didn't have my glasses on, he was more of a middle aged lech with a goatee! More creepy than good looking I've no problem with tweaking the image a bit - but at least make him 'attractive' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 He is young, they've just put something like silver gel on his dark hair and beard. Not that I have studied the advert or anything, you understand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowy Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Hmm, will have to have a better look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Well I happened to see it today and it is only because I had read this discussion that I realised he was meant to be Father Christmas! Otherwise I wouldn't have known - he didn't have a hat on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 It doesn't offend me but I think I switch off unless it's the warm and cosy type of Festive chap! What about the lyric's Santa baby, slip a sable under the tree Fur coats BBx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Saw the Ad last night. I thought he looked more like Satan than Father Christmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Man Banned Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 still haven't seen it but then I don't have much time to watch the box these days Will try and keep my eye out for it! A xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Saw the Ad last night. I thought he looked more like Satan than Father Christmas. Ironic that santa is an anagram of satan That's why it's better to call him Father Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Egluntyne Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 charlottechicken wrote Ironic that santa is an anagram of satan That's why it's better to call him Father Christmas Thankyou charlottechicken. That adds fuel to my one woman campaign to call him by his British name which is FATHER CHRISTMAS Not Santa, Santa Claus, Kris Kringle, St Nick or any other imposter you care to mention!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottechicken Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Go girl! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 charlottechicken wroteIronic that santa is an anagram of satan That's why it's better to call him Father Christmas Thankyou charlottechicken. That adds fuel to my one woman campaign to call him by his British name which is FATHER CHRISTMAS Not Santa, Santa Claus, Kris Kringle, St Nick or any other imposter you care to mention!! How on earth can St Nick be an imposter? He was the original!! (Santa at least retains the idea of "saint", Santa Klaus is a derivation of St Nicholas (Niklaus) Why call him Father Christmas - if there is an imposter - that's him!! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 St Nicholas is Turkish. He is not the original Northern European bringer of gifts. The two have been spliced together in peoples imaginations as the early christian church hijacked local traditions and folklore to encourage belief, and the characters have converged. His ability to come down the chimney and his ability to fly through the night sky on a sleigh pulled by reindeer are based on scandinavian traditions...the latter having something to do with the hallucinogenic effect of fly agaric mushrooms My spanish friends children receive their gifts from the Three Kings! As long as we all have a wonderful time I don't suppose it matters what we call him..... though you won't hear the "S" word in my house!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourfinches Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Happy St Nicholas day. St Nicholas is very modern - he was a fourth century bishop! The idea of Nicholas bringing gifts has been around for many centuries. Hope you have out your clogs out for him to fill with sweets. (I wonder if crocs would do instead?) Nicholas is traditionally depicted wearing Bishops robes - often a red cope. Morag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 St Nicholas is Turkish. He is not the original Northern European bringer of gifts. The two have been spliced together in peoples imaginations as the early christian church hijacked local traditions and folklore to encourage belief, and the characters have converged. His ability to come down the chimney and his ability to fly through the night sky on a sleigh pulled by reindeer are based on scandinavian traditions...the latter having something to do with the hallucinogenic effect of fly agaric mushrooms My spanish friends children receive their gifts from the Three Kings! As long as we all have a wonderful time I don't suppose it matters what we call him..... though you won't hear the "S" word in my house!! There is much murk and fog around the origins of our "Father Christmas". Some people say he hails from much earlier times than St Nicholas - and that he comes from the old idea of the Green Man - symbol of rebirth - though springtime would be a more obvious time of year for him... others point to Anglo-Saxon England (after St Nicholas) - where there was a figure called Father Christmas - but he wasn't about presents or children or chimneys or sleighs/reindeer/mince-pies etc... he was the one who heralded the coming of Winter - a bit like "Jack Frost". He'd knock on your door - and you gave him stuff - a warming drink - rather than the other way around! It was about "hospitality". the tradition of Father Christmas that we have now owes not very much to that - it owes much more to the blended St Nicholas tradition - which is about giving gifts (though not down chimneys!!) If we want to get back to the real old traditional English (Anglo-Saxon) Father Christmas - then I suspect our children would be very disappointed - but it would indeed be fantastic! If Father Christmas became a symbol of offering hospitality to those "out in the cold" and we dropped the whole sack of presents and down-the-chimney routine - then I'd be very happy! If that's what you're after - then I'll sign up to your one-woman campaign! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Marvellous! Please sign below. Name..................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffie Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 (edited) charlottechicken wroteIronic that santa is an anagram of satan That's why it's better to call him Father Christmas Thankyou charlottechicken. That adds fuel to my one woman campaign to call him by his British name which is FATHER CHRISTMAS Not Santa, Santa Claus, Kris Kringle, St Nick or any other imposter you care to mention!! How on earth can St Nick be an imposter? He was the original!! (Santa at least retains the idea of "saint", Santa Klaus is a derivation of St Nicholas (Niklaus) Why call him Father Christmas - if there is an imposter - that's him!! Phil Sorry Phil I posted in your post here it goes again Let's all keep chilled like 'frosty the snowman'. BBx Edited December 6, 2006 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Sorry Phil I posted in your post here it goes again Let's all keep chilled like 'frosty the snowman'. BBx If we all do that, Buffie, the Omlet and BHWT Fleece sales will take a big hit!! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egluntyne Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Brrrrrrrr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
